I propose we try this proposal in code, on real process flows that actually exists and inform our decisions of what to change and how to change it on actual user feedback and testing. 

I totally agree with this. However, in my opinion there are some aspects that we need to support better for this to work in practice:

Don't take the above as a complaint. Making a process that involves many teams and roles work fluently is really hard. I just wanted to share some of the issues I found when tried to go through this process in previous attempts so that we can learn from previous experiences.


Pau
 


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jared Zimmerman <jzimmerman@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Great conversation everyone, looking forward to seeing everyone weigh in, I don't want to get too far down into the weeds of form design though. Let's leave that for the designers of individual features. My hope is that we'd have some general principals and a system that is flexible enough to implement them. Designing theoretical UI libraries and coming up with possible issues with them is something we could probably do until the end of time. 

I propose we try this proposal in code, on real process flows that actually exists and inform our decisions of what to change and how to change it on actual user feedback and testing. 

The subtleties of color and arrangement will change, I have no doubt, but let's not get so caught up in the what ifs that we don't actually make things. 

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On Nov 7, 2013, at 12:00 AM, Steven Walling <swalling@wikimedia.org> wrote:


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Daniel Friesen <daniel@nadir-seen-fire.com> wrote:
Neutral = Grey
Destructive = Red
Constructive = Green
Primary = Blue

Should we start a new thread about this, and keep the conversation on the topic of button semantics and the according CSS? :) 

For reference: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Agoraswatch.png is the current palette.

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