The general idea is to provide the user with the main expected result as early as possible.

If I have to fill a description before the upload starts as a prerequisite  I'll see this as a barrier. However, if the upload starts and I'm able to provide a description meanwhile, then I'll be happier to do so and probably be willing to invest more time on it since the upload is going on.

Uploading a video to YouTube is an example. while the video is uploading you have the opportunity to edit descriptions or add another videos.

The system can even enforce that a description is provided before the content is publicly available, but that does not conflict with the idea of not blocking the upload from starting. I made a quick sketch to illustrate a possible workflow where asking for a description is postponed as much as possible:

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Pau


On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Brion Vibber <bvibber@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Matthew Flaschen <mflaschen@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On 02/15/2013 04:20 AM, Pau Giner wrote:
>       o I would expect the name and description not to block the
>         uploading (as it seems to happen when you make a picture with
>         the camera").

Commons practice is to rename meaningless names (DSC123.jpg)
(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Rename#Which_files_should_be_renamed.3F).

It probably isn't the end of the world if someone has to go through and
do it later.  However, if they provide neither name nor description up
front this could be quite challenging.

We could also do the upload in two steps, as UploadWizard does. First, we upload the file to the "stash" area with a temporary name. Then, once we have title and description filled out, we go ahead and move the file from the stash to its final name and apply the description page. This avoids exposing the image to Commons admins until it's ready. ;)

This might complicate the UI a bit for multiple uploads, dunno.

-- brion


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