---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru Date: 12 June 2010 16:10 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Are Wikimedia websites a proper venue for an artistic contest ? To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Why don't we ever read on Wikimedia Commons' main page "look at this picture: it is quite awkward, poorly lit, but it is the first picture we've ever had to illustrate Wikipedia article "<name of page>". We are grateful to the contributor who sent it. AND we will never delete it even if no longer used in any Wikipedia article when better pictures are sent by professional photographers later.
Whereas I generally do not agree with the general modality of the message I am replying to, I definitely think that this last point is important. Indeed, it is much easier to get recognition for a high-quality image than for an image which an uploader made an effort to make: a rare location or smth. This is definitely my personal experience - for instance, so far the only recognition I got for uploading the complete set of images of Beijing Subway (I have all 147 stations and uploaded so far about 50, more than the number of the station images existed on Commons a month ago), categorizing all this mess and adding pictures and links to Commons in all articles in all languages where they exist - the only recognition I got was one of my edits on one of Wikipedias instantly reverted. For the record, I spend several days of my time to take the pictures, and even more time to edit them.
Cheers Yaroslav
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On 12 June 2010 16:19, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru Date: 12 June 2010 16:10 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Are Wikimedia websites a proper venue for an artistic contest ? To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Why don't we ever read on Wikimedia Commons' main page "look at this picture: it is quite awkward, poorly lit, but it is the first picture we've ever had to illustrate Wikipedia article "<name of page>". We are grateful to the contributor who sent it. AND we will never delete it even if no longer used in any Wikipedia article when better pictures are sent by professional photographers later.
Whereas I generally do not agree with the general modality of the message I am replying to, I definitely think that this last point is important. Indeed, it is much easier to get recognition for a high-quality image than for an image which an uploader made an effort to make: a rare location or smth. This is definitely my personal experience - for instance, so far the only recognition I got for uploading the complete set of images of Beijing Subway (I have all 147 stations and uploaded so far about 50, more than the number of the station images existed on Commons a month ago), categorizing all this mess and adding pictures and links to Commons in all articles in all languages where they exist - the only recognition I got was one of my edits on one of Wikipedias instantly reverted. For the record, I spend several days of my time to take the pictures, and even more time to edit them.
Cheers Yaroslav
see:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Valued_images
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:51 AM, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
see:
Oops, *this* is what I meant when I was talking about Quality Images. :-)