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David Gerard

22 Sep 2006 22 Sep '06

8:45 p.m.

http://www.pubs.royalsoc.ac.uk/index.cfm?page=1373 Everything back to 1665. Really quite a lot of which is public domain. Get downloading. - d.

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Alphax (Wikipedia email)

25 Sep 25 Sep

12:50 a.m.

David Gerard wrote:

http://www.pubs.royalsoc.ac.uk/index.cfm?page=1373 Everything back to 1665. Really quite a lot of which is public domain. Get downloading.

Is there anywhere on Commons to upload this yet? If not, something along the lines of: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society_Journals and then order them by which issue, which article, etc. -- Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia "We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales Public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax/OpenPGP

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David Monniaux

2:53 a.m.

Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:

Is there anywhere on Commons to upload this yet? If not, something along the lines of: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society_Journals

You of course realize that mass downloads of journals may be construed as a copy of a significant part of a database, which is protected by a special copyright (much shorter than the regular one) under EU directives?

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David Gerard

5:53 a.m.

On 25/09/06, David Monniaux <David.Monniaux(a)free.fr> wrote:

Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:

>Is there anywhere on Commons to upload this yet? If not, something along >the lines of: >http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society_Journals

You of course realize that mass downloads of journals may be construed as a copy of a significant part of a database, which is protected by a special copyright (much shorter than the regular one) under EU directives?

And the UK law implementing this is ... David Monniaux says the Foundation should: [ ] not download and save this stuff on commons without absolute legal clarity [ ] say "such a restriction on hundreds of years old material is odious" and do it anyway [ ] something else - d.

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Alphax (Wikipedia email)

6 a.m.

David Gerard wrote:

On 25/09/06, David Monniaux <David.Monniaux(a)free.fr> wrote:

Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:

> Is there anywhere on Commons to upload this yet? If not, something along > the lines of: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society_Journals

You of course realize that mass downloads of journals may be construed as a copy of a significant part of a database, which is protected by a special copyright (much shorter than the regular one) under EU directives?

And the UK law implementing this is ... David Monniaux says the Foundation should: [ ] not download and save this stuff on commons without absolute legal clarity [ ] say "such a restriction on hundreds of years old material is odious" and do it anyway [ ] something else

For my money [x] say "such a restriction on hundreds of years old material is odious" and do it anyway but IANAL (and I'm not being paid to do this either). I might add that downloading the stuff is a non-trivial process... -- Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia "We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales Public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax/OpenPGP

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David Monniaux

6:14 a.m.

David Gerard wrote:

And the UK law implementing this is ...

UK law is a confusing mess, I'll let our British friends search for it. In France it is title IV of the Code of intellectual property, inserted by law 98-536 taken in application of directive 96/9/CE of March 11, 1996: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31996L0009:EN:H…

David Monniaux says the Foundation should:

The Foundation, by itself, should do nothing. Individual users uploading material take their responsibilities. The Foundation only provides hosting. -- DM

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Cary Bass

26 Sep 26 Sep

7:13 p.m.

Why is everybody on my two mailing lists suddenly being IANAL? Anyway... mass downloading images from a database recalls to my mind something about fr.wikiquotes... Cary Bass

-----Original Message----- From: commons-l-bounces(a)wikimedia.org [mailto:commons-l-bounces@wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Alphax (Wikipedia email) Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 6:00 AM To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Royal Society archives online until December David Gerard wrote:

On 25/09/06, David Monniaux <David.Monniaux(a)free.fr> wrote:

Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:

>> Is there anywhere on Commons to upload this yet? If not,

something along

> the lines of: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society_Journals

> You of course realize that mass downloads of journals may be construed > as a copy of a significant part of a database, which is protected by a > special copyright (much shorter than the regular one) under EU

directives?

And the UK law implementing this is ... David Monniaux says the Foundation should: [ ] not download and save this stuff on commons without

absolute legal clarity

[ ] say "such a restriction on hundreds of years old material is odious" and do it anyway [ ] something else

For my money [x] say "such a restriction on hundreds of years old material is odious" and do it anyway but IANAL (and I'm not being paid to do this either). I might add that downloading the stuff is a non-trivial process... -- Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia "We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales Public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax/OpenPGP

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Alphax (Wikipedia email)

11 Oct 11 Oct

4:05 a.m.

David Gerard wrote:

http://www.pubs.royalsoc.ac.uk/index.cfm?page=1373 Everything back to 1665. Really quite a lot of which is public domain. Get downloading.

They're also available on JSTOR, if you're at an educational institution. -- Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia "We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales Public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax/OpenPGP

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