I guess all you need is artwork template with an extra field for Copiest. You can add it by adding

| other_fields_1 = {{Information field |name= {{ucfirst:{{label: Q3997704}}}} |value= Copiest_name_here }}. Current artwork template allows “author” and “Artist” fields.

Jarek T. (user:jarekt)

From: Commons-l [mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Arne Wossink Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:32 AM To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List Subject: Re: [Commons-l] EXTERNAL: Metadata of digitized manuscripts

I always understood that custom templates should be avoided, if necessary. However, what I would need at the least are the following items:

Auteur van de tekst (indien van toepassing, bv. Bij Augustinus Confessiones) Author Kopiist (indien bekend) Copiist Kunstenaar – verluchter indien bekend, dit staat als het goed is bij ‘annotatie’ Artist Datering – Jaar Date Titel – titel van het hele manuscript – Titel (dit is dus primair de titel van de tekst, bv. Confessiones, maar kan ook de titel zijn van het soort boek: Getijdenboek) Title Beschrijving – handschrift en folium, iconografische beschrijving afbeelding Description Techniek/materiaal – illustraties op perkament Medium Afmetingen – Afmetingen Dimensions Locatie – Universiteitsbibliotheek Utrecht Location Inventarisnr. – nr. + volledige beschrijving van het handschrift en digitale versie: url Accession number Plaats van vervaardiging (indien bekend) Place of creation Herkomst – provenantie, indien van toepassing, bv. Mariakek Place of discovery Bron/fotograaf – Is dat UB Utrecht? Misschien kan er een banner worden gemaakt, net als bij de KB. Source Toestemming – open licentie, commons Permission

So if I actually look at it, the only thing what is really different from the artwork template is that there needs to be room for 3 different creator roles (Author, Copiist, Artist).

Arne Wossink

Projectleider / Project Manager Wikimedia Nederland

(Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, donderdag / Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday)

Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 E-mail: wossink@wikimedia.nlmailto:wossink@wikimedia.nl

Postadres: Bezoekadres: Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht

2017-06-15 15:02 GMT+02:00 Tuszynski, Jarek W. <JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@leidos.commailto:JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@leidos.com>:

Arme,

A standard approach is to create custom template for you uploads which is based on one of existing templates. See for example https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates:_based_on_Artw... or https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates:_based_on_Phot... . If you need help I can help with creating one for you.

Jarek T. (user:Jarekt)

From: Commons-l [mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Arne Wossink Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:57 AM To: commons-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration [Public]; Wikimedia Chapters cultural partners coordination - closed list Subject: EXTERNAL: [Commons-l] Metadata of digitized manuscripts

Hey all,

I'm helping out with an upload of digitized manuscripts. We were discussing the metadata that come with those, and there were some issues that weren't covered by any of the existing useful templates (book or artwork). However, I would still prefer to use an existing template instead of building something from different fields. Does anyone have experience with uploading manuscripts and associated metadata to Commons, and can point me to some examples of how specific problems were solved?

Best,

Arne Wossink

Projectleider / Project Manager Wikimedia Nederland

(Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, donderdag / Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday)

Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505tel:+31%206%2011000505 E-mail: wossink@wikimedia.nlmailto:wossink@wikimedia.nl

Postadres: Bezoekadres: Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht

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{{ucfirst:{{label: Q3997704}}}} or even better {{ucfirst:{{label: Q916292}}}} uses Wikidata to fetch word “scribe” translated into users language. {{ucfirst:}} capitalizes the first letter in case it is not. Sorry I did not have chance to learn Pattypan interface yet, but in case you can not add the above field we can always add it latter by a bot.

Jarek T. (user:jarekt)

From: Commons-l [mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Arne Wossink Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:50 AM To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List Subject: Re: [Commons-l] EXTERNAL: Metadata of digitized manuscripts

Thanks! That seems to do the trick. So what exactly does the WD part in the syntax? The upload will be done in Pattypan, so I'm trying to understand how I need to integrate this into the metadata-Excel sheet.

Best,

Arne Wossink

Projectleider / Project Manager Wikimedia Nederland

(Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, donderdag / Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday)

Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 E-mail: wossink@wikimedia.nlmailto:wossink@wikimedia.nl

Postadres: Bezoekadres: Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht

2017-06-15 15:43 GMT+02:00 Tuszynski, Jarek W. <JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@leidos.commailto:JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@leidos.com>: I guess all you need is artwork template with an extra field for Copiest. You can add it by adding

| other_fields_1 = {{Information field |name= {{ucfirst:{{label: Q3997704}}}} |value= Copiest_name_here }}. Current artwork template allows “author” and “Artist” fields.

Jarek T. (user:jarekt)

From: Commons-l [mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Arne Wossink Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:32 AM To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List Subject: Re: [Commons-l] EXTERNAL: Metadata of digitized manuscripts

I always understood that custom templates should be avoided, if necessary. However, what I would need at the least are the following items:

Auteur van de tekst (indien van toepassing, bv. Bij Augustinus Confessiones) Author Kopiist (indien bekend) Copiist Kunstenaar – verluchter indien bekend, dit staat als het goed is bij ‘annotatie’ Artist Datering – Jaar Date Titel – titel van het hele manuscript – Titel (dit is dus primair de titel van de tekst, bv. Confessiones, maar kan ook de titel zijn van het soort boek: Getijdenboek) Title Beschrijving – handschrift en folium, iconografische beschrijving afbeelding Description Techniek/materiaal – illustraties op perkament Medium Afmetingen – Afmetingen Dimensions Locatie – Universiteitsbibliotheek Utrecht Location Inventarisnr. – nr. + volledige beschrijving van het handschrift en digitale versie: url Accession number Plaats van vervaardiging (indien bekend) Place of creation Herkomst – provenantie, indien van toepassing, bv. Mariakek Place of discovery Bron/fotograaf – Is dat UB Utrecht? Misschien kan er een banner worden gemaakt, net als bij de KB. Source Toestemming – open licentie, commons Permission

So if I actually look at it, the only thing what is really different from the artwork template is that there needs to be room for 3 different creator roles (Author, Copiist, Artist).

Arne Wossink

Projectleider / Project Manager Wikimedia Nederland

(Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, donderdag / Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday)

Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505tel:+31%206%2011000505 E-mail: wossink@wikimedia.nlmailto:wossink@wikimedia.nl

Postadres: Bezoekadres: Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht

2017-06-15 15:02 GMT+02:00 Tuszynski, Jarek W. <JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@leidos.commailto:JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@leidos.com>:

Arme,

A standard approach is to create custom template for you uploads which is based on one of existing templates. See for example https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates:_based_on_Artw... or https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates:_based_on_Phot... . If you need help I can help with creating one for you.

Jarek T. (user:Jarekt)

From: Commons-l [mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Arne Wossink Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:57 AM To: commons-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration [Public]; Wikimedia Chapters cultural partners coordination - closed list Subject: EXTERNAL: [Commons-l] Metadata of digitized manuscripts

Hey all,

I'm helping out with an upload of digitized manuscripts. We were discussing the metadata that come with those, and there were some issues that weren't covered by any of the existing useful templates (book or artwork). However, I would still prefer to use an existing template instead of building something from different fields. Does anyone have experience with uploading manuscripts and associated metadata to Commons, and can point me to some examples of how specific problems were solved?

Best,

Arne Wossink

Projectleider / Project Manager Wikimedia Nederland

(Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, donderdag / Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday)

Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505tel:+31%206%2011000505 E-mail: wossink@wikimedia.nlmailto:wossink@wikimedia.nl

Postadres: Bezoekadres: Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht

_______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

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When creating custom parameters for content, that kind of tactic: of being very clear which Wikidata concepts that are associated with those objects, should help as we approach structured commons over the next couple years.

Cheers,

Alex Stinson

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Arne Wossink wossink@wikimedia.nl wrote:

Interesting. I'm going to try it out in Pattypan to see how I should use this. Thanks, I've learned something today :)

Arne Wossink

Projectleider / Project Manager Wikimedia Nederland

*(Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, donderdag / Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday)*

Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 <+31%206%2011000505> E-mail: wossink@wikimedia.nl

*Postadres*:

• Bezoekadres:*

Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht

2017-06-15 15:57 GMT+02:00 Tuszynski, Jarek W. < JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@leidos.com>:

...

{{ucfirst:{{label: Q3997704}}}} or even better {{ucfirst:{{label: Q916292}}}} uses Wikidata to fetch word “scribe” translated into users language. {{ucfirst:}} capitalizes the first letter in case it is not. Sorry I did not have chance to learn Pattypan interface yet, but in case you can not add the above field we can always add it latter by a bot.

Jarek T.

(user:jarekt)

*From:* Commons-l [mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Arne Wossink *Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:50 AM

*To:* Wikimedia Commons Discussion List *Subject:* Re: [Commons-l] EXTERNAL: Metadata of digitized manuscripts

Thanks! That seems to do the trick. So what exactly does the WD part in the syntax? The upload will be done in Pattypan, so I'm trying to understand how I need to integrate this into the metadata-Excel sheet.

Best,

Arne Wossink

Projectleider / Project Manager Wikimedia Nederland

*(Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, donderdag / Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday)*

Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 <+31%206%2011000505>

E-mail: wossink@wikimedia.nl

*Postadres*:

• Bezoekadres:*

Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3

3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht

2017-06-15 15:43 GMT+02:00 Tuszynski, Jarek W. < JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@leidos.com>:

I guess all you need is artwork template with an extra field for Copiest. You can add it by adding

| other_fields_1 = {{Information field |name= {{ucfirst:{{label: Q3997704}}}} |value= Copiest_name_here }}. Current artwork template allows “author” and “Artist” fields.

Jarek T.

(user:jarekt)

*From:* Commons-l [mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Arne Wossink *Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:32 AM *To:* Wikimedia Commons Discussion List *Subject:* Re: [Commons-l] EXTERNAL: Metadata of digitized manuscripts

I always understood that custom templates should be avoided, if necessary. However, what I would need at the least are the following items:

Auteur van de tekst (indien van toepassing, bv. Bij Augustinus Confessiones) *Author*

Kopiist (indien bekend) *Copiist*

Kunstenaar – verluchter indien bekend, dit staat als het goed is bij ‘annotatie’ *Artist*

Datering – Jaar *Date*

Titel – titel van het hele manuscript – Titel (dit is dus primair de titel van de tekst, bv. Confessiones, maar kan ook de titel zijn van het soort boek: Getijdenboek) *Title*

Beschrijving – handschrift en folium, iconografische beschrijving afbeelding *Description*

Techniek/materiaal – illustraties op perkament *Medium*

Afmetingen – Afmetingen *Dimensions*

Locatie – Universiteitsbibliotheek Utrecht *Location*

Inventarisnr. – nr. + volledige beschrijving van het handschrift en digitale versie: url *Accession number*

Plaats van vervaardiging (indien bekend) *Place of creation*

Herkomst – provenantie, indien van toepassing, bv. Mariakek *Place of discovery*

Bron/fotograaf – Is dat UB Utrecht? Misschien kan er een banner worden gemaakt, net als bij de KB. *Source*

Toestemming – open licentie, commons *Permission*

So if I actually look at it, the only thing what is really different from the artwork template is that there needs to be room for 3 different creator roles (Author, Copiist, Artist).

Arne Wossink

Projectleider / Project Manager Wikimedia Nederland

*(Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, donderdag / Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday)*

Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 <+31%206%2011000505>

E-mail: wossink@wikimedia.nl

*Postadres*:

• Bezoekadres:*

Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3

3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht

2017-06-15 15:02 GMT+02:00 Tuszynski, Jarek W. < JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@leidos.com>:

Arme,

A standard approach is to create custom template for you uploads which is based on one of existing templates. See for example https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_template s:_based_on_Artwork_template or https://commons.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Category:Infobox_templates:_based_on_Photograph_template . If you need help I can help with creating one for you.

Jarek T.

(user:Jarekt)

*From:* Commons-l [mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Arne Wossink *Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:57 AM *To:* commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration [Public]; Wikimedia Chapters cultural partners coordination - closed list *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [Commons-l] Metadata of digitized manuscripts

Hey all,

I'm helping out with an upload of digitized manuscripts. We were discussing the metadata that come with those, and there were some issues that weren't covered by any of the existing useful templates (book or artwork). However, I would still prefer to use an existing template instead of building something from different fields. Does anyone have experience with uploading manuscripts and associated metadata to Commons, and can point me to some examples of how specific problems were solved?

Best,

Arne Wossink

Projectleider / Project Manager Wikimedia Nederland

*(Werkdagen: maandag, dinsdag, donderdag / Office hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday)*

Tel. +31 (0)6 11000505 <+31%206%2011000505>

E-mail: wossink@wikimedia.nl

*Postadres*:

• Bezoekadres:*

Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3

3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht

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