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On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, private musings thepmaccount@gmail.com wrote:

There are many shots clearly 'posed' - which I personally feel means that permission is clearly granted by the subject - however there are also many which don't indicate that the subject has any idea the image is being captured.

Where on Commons is the best place to discuss this? I haven't seen anything that looks like a very good processlist for checking that an image has a model release... though I reckon there's a template for suggesting one does not.

The addition of this material to commons, and to multiple user galleries (and user pages) - often with captions / titles like 'hot' or 'sexy' I feel is at best crass, and at worst an embarrassment to the

I don't see anything wrong with calling encyclopedic or otherwise useful, release images, hot or sexy, or with making galleries out of them. you can leave out this tangent.

I believe it's desirable to respect the subjects of photography featuring nudity to the degree that no matter what the copyright status of the image, permission of the subject is in some way assessed, and if found wanting - the media should be deleted.

I don't think copyright has anything to do with this; again you can leave out that comment entirely. Permission of subject should be assessed, period. If you assess it by saying 'it is from a library archive and is 80 yrs old', that works as a first pass.

SJ

An aside on work-safety:

Earlier, John wrote:

While creating software would be needed for a good solution, I think we can create a simple solution by renaming all images with nudity so that they begin with NSFW (not safe for work), as I mentioned here:

I don't think this is a good idea in the slightest. I know I mentioned NSFW before, and I meant it in a totally different context. What I was suggesting is: - pages which might be unexpectedly come across (name and context don't give away media content) and are considered NSFW by a reasonable minority of people should have some indication on the page [not on the images].

It's not meaningful to look for consensus on what is SFW or NSFW, and media cannot be SFW or NSFW without context. [for any given image or block of text, there is some workplace where it is appropriate if not commonplace]