Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:07:59 +1000
From: "Brianna Laugher" <brianna.laugher(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Two new tools for Flickr
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On 17/05/07, Bryan Tong Minh <bryan.tongminh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
As you might, or might not know, I have been
quite busy with Flickr
lately, especially with [[User:FlickreviewR]]. I have written two
tools (or actually, one tool with two functions) with helps Commons
users with images for Flickr.
The first is a database of all images reviewed images from Flickr:
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~bryan/flickr/browse You can
search on nsid,
username, photo_id, link, and Commons image. The
database contains
over 28,000 images, which is over 70% of the total number of Flickr
images on Commons :) [1]
Whose username, Flickr or Commons? And if Commons is that
reviewer or uploader or what? What is nsid? No search I tried
actually returned any results. Bit more help, please?
Now the second tool is really handy (imho ;P). It
allows
you to easily
upload images from Flickr:
If you find any security bug in
the upload part, the bot that performs the
uploads and to
be blocked
is Flickr_upload_bot.
Magnus had a similar idea, a bot that performed transfers
from (eg) Wikipedia to Commons. I asked him to disable it...
I kind of have a problem with this is in that it allows
essentially anonymous uploads. At least in this case they
are restricted to images from flickr with suitable licenses,
that is better than totally anonymous, but still. What stops
me putting the username 'Bryan' in and putting up whatever
irrelevant, offensive, invasive, stupid images I can find on
Flickr? oh... nothing.
I think there's a good reason MediaWiki requires users to be
logged in before uploading, and I don't think we should use
bots that circumvent that requirement.
At the very least I think there should be a bot approval
thing for this bot, where we can discuss as a community if we
want to allow this kind of thing to happen.
cheers
Brianna
user:pfctdayelise
The idea of a tool to help bring images over from flickr and put them on
commons, properly tagged and with nice {{information}} templates filled in,
is very attractive. However toolserver restrictions prevent tools from
asking for passwords. That seems a bit of a conflict that will require some
thought to get round. I agree with Briana that such uploads, even when done
with tools, really ought to be verifiably associated with the real user, not
with a bot ID.
I think we might want to try to look for ways to do this
AWB for instance gets around this by being client side, and requiring the
user to log in. It's also heavily intertwined with windows machines, as it
relys on .net and on IE services...
I wonder if there are other ways to do this that are platform independent
but that do not require the user to give their commons password to a
toolserver hosted tool...
Larry Pieniazek
Work mail: lpieniaz at