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bawolff

10 Feb 2007 10 Feb '07

7:53 a.m.

Flo said:

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My additional wish would be a way to contact one time contributers. There are several ways to achieve this: * Creating a field "home wiki" on the resistration form.

... How hard could that be? Create a field in the log in page saying ''I ussually contribute to project x'', preferably this could be done semi-automatically via referrer headers or wikipedia linking with a url like http://common.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:userlogin?from=en.wikipedia . The thing gets automatically filled out, and the user can change it if he wants. Then when he creates an account, his user page has a template on it automatically that says, "so and so is usually at foo, leave a message both here and there". Then if orphanbot [or whatever you call your bots that send messages] comes a long, sees it, and leaves a message at both commons and the local wiki. --bawolff

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Platonides

10 Feb 10 Feb

4:31 p.m.

bawolff wrote:

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Flo said:

My additional wish would be a way to contact one time contributers. There are several ways to achieve this: * Creating a field "home wiki" on the resistration form.

Easy, but it'd involve a change in db fields.

Florian Straub

6:09 p.m.

"Platonides" <Platonides(a)gmail.com> wrote on Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:31 PM:

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bawolff wrote:

Flo said:

My additional wish would be a way to contact one time contributers. There are several ways to achieve this: * Creating a field "home wiki" on the resistration form.

Easy, but it'd involve a change in db fields.

Not necessary. We could create a link to a userpage that includes a template, the username and project the way we do it at the deletion requests ... Regards, Flo

Bence Damokos

6:29 p.m.

Maybe a crosswiki message notification system after SUL would be the ideal solution? On 2/10/07, Platonides <Platonides(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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bawolff wrote:

Flo said: > My additional wish would be a way to contact one time contributers.

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are several ways to achieve this: * Creating a field "home wiki" on the resistration form.

http://common.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:userlogin?from=en.wikipedia

. The thing gets automatically filled out, and the user can change it if he wants. Then when he creates an account, his user page has a template on it automatically that says, "so and so is usually at foo, leave a message both here and there". Then if orphanbot [or whatever you call your bots that send messages] comes a long, sees it, and leaves a message at both commons and the local wiki. --bawolff

Easy, but it'd involve a change in db fields. _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

Platonides

11:01 p.m.

Bence Damokos wrote:

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Maybe a crosswiki message notification system after SUL would be the ideal solution?

I proposed it time ago. But yet, we need SUL before :P (which will help us a lot, BTW)

Brianna Laugher

11 Feb 11 Feb

2:15 p.m.

I think it would make more sense to ask the user explicitly, "How would you like to be informed if your files are nominated for deletion?" x Never inform me x Inform me at my Commons talk page (default) x Inform my at my talk page at another wiki, which is User:_ at project _ (fill in the blanks) x Inform me via email; I have verified my email in my Commons account. that would be pretty cool actually. since 'home wikis' can change as people's interests change. and I think it is generally better to ask what you *mean* rather than what you think will extract the answer you desire (unintended side effects creep in...) Anyway, unfortunately I have to agree with Platonides et al that we should wait and see exactly what SUL brings. How the watchlist(s) will work has not been made terribly clear, at least in anything I've seen. cheers Brianna On 11/02/07, Florian Straub <flominator(a)gmx.net> wrote:

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"Platonides" <Platonides(a)gmail.com> wrote on Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:31 PM:

bawolff wrote:

Flo said:

My additional wish would be a way to contact one time contributers. There are several ways to achieve this: * Creating a field "home wiki" on the resistration form.

Easy, but it'd involve a change in db fields.

Not necessary. We could create a link to a userpage that includes a template, the username and project the way we do it at the deletion requests ... Regards, Flo _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

Stephen Bain

3:04 p.m.

On 2/12/07, Brianna Laugher <brianna.laugher(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Anyway, unfortunately I have to agree with Platonides et al that we should wait and see exactly what SUL brings. How the watchlist(s) will work has not been made terribly clear, at least in anything I've seen.

I don't know about watchlists, but I seem to remember reading that one of the main features of SUL would be a unified "new messages" banner to announce new messages on any project. -- Stephen Bain stephen.bain(a)gmail.com

Florian Straub

8:58 p.m.

"Brianna Laugher" <brianna.laugher(a)gmail.com> Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:15 PM:

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Sounds great.

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that would be pretty cool actually.

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Why not inplementing a javascript and/or template solution before waiting for another few years? Regards, Flo

Bryan Tong Minh

10:23 p.m.

Implementing watchlists in Javascript? I have implemented a watchlist in javascript [1], but the problem is that javascript does not allow cross website scripting. So there is no way I can fetch the data from an other hostname. Bryan [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:ExtendedWatchlist On 2/11/07, Florian Straub <flominator(a)gmx.net> wrote:

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"Brianna Laugher" <brianna.laugher(a)gmail.com> Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:15 PM:

Sounds great.

that would be pretty cool actually.

Why not inplementing a javascript and/or template solution before waiting for another few years? Regards, Flo _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

Alphax (Wikipedia email)

12 Feb 12 Feb

9:18 a.m.

Bryan Tong Minh wrote:

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There are actually two solutions to that problem: 1. The Wikimedia wikis have an AJAX framework which IIRC has the capability to tranparently fetch data off any other Wikimedia wiki, on the server side. So Javascript thinks it's still dealing with the same site and the sandbox security model doesn't prevent what you want. 2. Turn the whole thing into a Greasemonkey script (I know, you limit the browser choices...) and then pull data from wherever you want... -- Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia "We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales Public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax/OpenPGP

Cool Cat

6:13 p.m.

Idea is nice, but we could use categories/userpages for that. Dont forget, we are just another wiki. - Cool Cat On 2/10/07, bawolff <bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Flo said:

My additional wish would be a way to contact one time contributers. There are several ways to achieve this: * Creating a field "home wiki" on the resistration form.

Platonides

6:32 p.m.

Cool Cat wrote:

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Idea is nice, but we could use categories/userpages for that. Dont forget, we are just another wiki. - Cool Cat

Yes, it can be done on user page... if it is used. Maybe we needed to add to the registration process a Wizard to populate the userpage with babel, source project...

Florian Straub

8:41 p.m.

"Platonides" <Platonides(a)gmail.com> wrote on Monday, February 12, 2007 6:32 PM:

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Cool Cat wrote:

Idea is nice, but we could use categories/userpages for that. Dont forget, we are just another wiki. - Cool Cat

Yes, it can be done on user page... if it is used. Maybe we needed to add to the registration process a Wizard to populate the userpage with babel, source project...

Thats exactly, what I was talking about. It would not only tell us, where they would like to be contacted, but also in which language. Regards, Flo

bawolff

13 Feb 13 Feb

1:54 a.m.

That's what I meant. You have the field, and it automatically (through js magic?) puts a template on your userspace which the image warning bots recognize. -bawolff On 2/12/07, Cool Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Idea is nice, but we could use categories/userpages for that. Dont forget, we are just another wiki. - Cool Cat On 2/10/07, bawolff < bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Flo said:

My additional wish would be a way to contact one time contributers. There are several ways to achieve this: * Creating a field "home wiki" on the resistration form.

http://common.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:userlogin?from=en.wikipedia

Florian Straub

16 Feb 16 Feb

8:04 p.m.

"bawolff" <bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> wrote on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:54 AM

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That's what I meant. You have the field, and it automatically (through js magic?) puts a template on your userspace which the image warning bots recognize.

What about http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Notify_me ? Best regards, Flo

bawolff

17 Feb 17 Feb

5:08 a.m.

Thats exactly what I meant. The only problem is no one knows it exists. -bawolff On 2/16/07, Florian Straub <flominator(a)gmx.net> wrote:

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"bawolff" <bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> wrote on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:54 AM

That's what I meant. You have the field, and it automatically (through js magic?) puts a template on your userspace which the image warning bots recognize.

What about http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Notify_me ? Best regards, Flo

peter green

5:20 a.m.

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Idea is nice, but we could use categories/userpages for that. Dont forget, we are just another wiki.

and some people do use thier userpage for that, but the vast majority don't. we need to get the home wiki information at signup time because with drive by users we may not get another chance. i think we may even need to go as far as making it mandatory to specify username, password and wiki for an account on another wikimedia wiki at signup time. If we don't make it mandatory then the very people we need the info for the most are the type that are least likely to give it to us.

Florian Straub

10:01 a.m.

"bawolff" <bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> wrote on Saturday, February 17, 2007 5:08 AM:

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On 2/16/07, Florian Straub <flominator(a)gmx.net> wrote: > "bawolff" <bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> wrote on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:54 > AM > > > That's what I meant. You have the field, and it automatically (through > > js magic?) puts a template on your userspace which the image warning > > bots recognize. > > What about http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Notify_me ?

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Thats exactly what I meant. The only problem is no one knows it exists.

Maybe that's because I created it about 12 hours ago? ;) Now we need a "javascript magician" to include in in the registration process .... Regards, Flo

Florian Straub

18 Mar 18 Mar

8:21 p.m.

"peter green" <plugwash(a)P10Link.net> wrote on Saturday, February 17, 2007 5:20 AM:

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Idea is nice, but we could use categories/userpages for that. Dont forget, we are just another wiki.

Just a try, but what do you think about this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Welcomecreation Best regards, Flo

Bryan Tong Minh

9:04 p.m.

Looks great! On 3/18/07, Florian Straub <flominator(a)gmx.net> wrote:

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"peter green" <plugwash(a)P10Link.net> wrote on Saturday, February 17, 2007 5:20 AM:

Idea is nice, but we could use categories/userpages for that. Dont forget, we are just another wiki.

Just a try, but what do you think about this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Welcomecreation Best regards, Flo _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

Florian Straub

19 Mar 19 Mar

7:34 p.m.

"Bryan Tong Minh" <bryan.tongminh(a)gmail.com> wrote on Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:04 PM:

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On 3/18/07, Florian Straub <flominator(a)gmx.net> wrote:

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> "peter green" <plugwash(a)P10Link.net> wrote on Saturday, February 17, 2007 > 5:20 AM:

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> > we need to get the home wiki information at signup time because with > > drive > > by users we may not get another chance.

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> Just a try, but what do you think about this: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Welcomecreation

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Looks great!

Thank you. Now everyone should take a look if his spoken languages are already translated. I've just did German. Best regards, Flo

Gizmo II

20 Mar 20 Mar

12:04 a.m.

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Thank you. Now everyone should take a look if his spoken languages are already translated. I've just did German.

Done with Spanish ;) -- Gizmo_II

peter green

12:13 a.m.

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Just a try, but what do you think about this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Welcomecreation

better than nothing but users can still ignore it and go straight to the upload button.

Florian Straub

9:55 a.m.

"peter green" <plugwash(a)P10Link.net> wrote

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Just a try, but what do you think about this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Welcomecreation

better than nothing but users can still ignore it and go straight to the upload button.

I don't know how many registered since we changed it, but two new users already use it :) Regards, Flo -- "Feel free" - 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX ProMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/promail-out

odder

10:28 a.m.

Polish-language version done. -- Przyszedłem pożuć gumę i nieco poedytować http://pl.wikipedia.org/

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Alphax (Wikipedia email)
bawolff
Bence Damokos
Brianna Laugher
Bryan Tong Minh
Cool Cat
Florian Straub
Gizmo II
odder
peter green
Platonides
Stephen Bain