Maybe there is nothing preventing you from uploading
from UK, but
the US copyright law prevents the WMF from accepting your files, no?
Eusebius
Michael Peel a écrit :
That's a valid point, but I'm coming at it from different
direction: works that are public domain in the country of origin
but not in the US. I don't view that as gaming the copyright
system, as I'm based in the UK and I don't view Wikimedia as an
American website/set of projects. If a UK photographer's works are
public domain in the UK but not in the US, there shouldn't be
anything stopping me uploading them to (some variant of) Commons
and tagging them as life+70 but not US-PD. Mike On 9 Feb 2010, at
09:00, Rama Neko wrote:
We do not game copyright laws in this way. You can see an example
with Heinrich Hoffman's photographs: the USA consider them to be
in the Public Domain in apparent disregard for international law
on copyright; these photographs are protected by copyright in
Germany, where they are the object of very proprietary
publications. The policy on Commons is that we do not accept such
images. -- Rama On 09/02/2010, Michael Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net>
wrote:
On 8 Feb 2010, at 23:05, Ken Arromdee wrote:
>
> This is also a particular problem with pictures of living
> people, since we've been told that since it's *possible* to
> take another picture of a living person, all non-free images of
> living people are prohibited. The official way of interpreting
> "it's possible to" takes no consideration of just how possible
> it is. In any other context this would be considered rules-
> lawyering-- we're basically officially rules-lawyering our own
> policies.
Personally, I think we should remove all non-free images from
all language Wikipedias (and everywhere else they occur) - as
they make it difficult to get freely licensed content off people
that already have that content. Case study: I emailed ESA to ask
for a photograph of a satellite to use in an article; they
provided a 200 pixel image I could use as 'fair use' in return.
In the past, we weren't big enough to have any leverage to get
that content released - but now we are, and we could have that
leverage if we want to take advantage of it. However, that is
somewhat separate from the question of images that are in the
public domain _somewhere_. It is somewhat crazy that US laws
dictate what public domain materials you can upload to Wikipedia
etc - irrespective of what laws apply in your own country. One
possibility that might be worth investigating is something like
Wikilivres - which holds books that are out of copyright in
Canada (life+50 years) but not in the US. It can do that as its
servers are based in Canada. Could we do something similar with
Wikimedia Commons? i.e. host multimedia content on a server in a
different geographical area, and then have that linked in with
Wikipedia in the same way that Commons currently is? There
shouldn't be any concerns about having thumbnail images of these
works on Wikipedia, as these are all done under fair use anyway
(e.g. all of those uncredited CC- BY-SA images...). Mike
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