Without talking to the liquidators, how much could they be looking for at
the moment their plan is to destroy the negatives that'll cost
them(ultimately the creditors) what $5,000 to $10,000 so I'd think any
value for the negatives is a positive for the liquidators and the creditors.
We'd probably need to find someone from the GLAM sector to become involved
as we cant store the negatives and theres not a realistically short
timeframe for digitising such a collection so it'd have to be an extended
project.
I'd assume that if they can sell the negatives they must own them, and
rights to use them why else would the liquidators consider them a disposable
asset.
If they dont own the rights to the images then the asset value is very small
realistically thats just the recyclable value of the media itself, its also
probably not of an immediate benefit to Us except in the good will
preserving such a collect would give us with the GLAM sector rather than
being seen as just noncontributing consumer of all that is free.
Really we cant speculate we need to contact the liquidator and find out some
more detail, Liam points out this an opportunity for a local chapter but I'
m happy to make initial enquiries and then hand it across at a later date.
On 28 February 2011 10:20, Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Responding to Gnangarra - this is a very interesting
issue indeed, and one
that we might be able to make a big impact with, but I don't think this is a
Wikimedia FOUNDATION issue as it involves the creation/purchase of content.
Rather I would suggest that this is an issue that falls within the scope of
the Chapters - in this case WM-FR. Either money could be spent directly from
a chapter(s) budget or potentially the chapter(s) could run a specific
donation-drive to fund such a purchase? Besides, how much are we talking
here? $50,000? $500,000? $5million?
Response to Jon - the way I read that, it means that 75% of the photographs
were taken under contract with Corbis and therefore the copyright would come
with the purchase of the collection. Any purchase could presumably be
specified to only those images which come WITH the copyright.
-Liam
wittylama.com/blog
Peace, love & metadata
On 28 February 2011 01:51, Jon Davis <wiki(a)konsoletek.com> wrote:
Forgive me if I'm off base here, but from
what I understand it. The
images to be lost are " 25% of photographic elements remaining under the control
of liquidator (photographers without a signed contract with Corbis
Corporation and is represented by Sygma)".
That would seem to indicate that regardless of how they got these images,
they don't have a contract on file and that concerns me. Are we even sure
that if the Foundation bought the photos, that they'd be able to release
them? And how in the bloody hell would commons handle more than double the
amount of content it already has. Sure, going from 10 million files to 22
million files would be kick ass, but that would be a MAJOR amount of work
for EVERYONE involved.
(Not saying it's a bad idea, just concerned).
-Jon
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 17:29, Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.ajmj.fr/php/annuaire/pageFicheAnnuaire.php?id=354
if my french still serves me
- Stephane Gorrias
- Mandataire Judiciaire
- Près la Cour D'appel De Versailles
- Tribunal principal :
- Année d'inscription : 2003
- SCP : SCP BECHERET-THIERRY-SENECHAL-GORRIAS
- Courriel : stephane.gorrias(a)ajmj.fr
-
- Domicile Professionnel
- 1 Place Boieldieu
- 75002 PARIS
- Télécopie : 01 40 28 06 70
these are the contact details
On 28 February 2011 06:44, Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)wikia-inc.com> wrote:
Happy to help if I can, but it does seem that the
photos are physical
objects and therefore possibly expensive to store/digitize. If someone can
help me find the email address of the decision maker there, I'm happy to
open or lend support to a conversation with them.
It isn't clear from the blog whether they own only the physical objects
or also the copyrights.
On 2/26/11 12:28 PM, Gnangarra wrote:
>
http://blog.melchersystem.com/2011/02/25/the-fire-this-time/
>
> 12 Million Photographs are to be destroyed because liquidators cant
> find
> a buyer?
>
> these arent just random landscape photos, these are photos are from the
> fench news agency Sygma
>
> Wikimedia-france, Jimbo, any chance they could find their way to
> Commons
> rather than just being destroyed and lost for ever.......
>
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