Hoi,
When Chaim Potok wrote about crucifixions in "My name is Asher Lev" he wrote that they are part of the art of a painter. You will find suffering, love, beauty, devotion, belief all expressed in paintings. The western tradition is one where the proverb "a picture paints a thousand words" is accepted.

When you refuse the use of paintings or photoshopped pictures because of the "veridicality", I understand it means truthiness, of pictues I expect you to be the kind of person who does not appreciate how important pictures for many people to have them understand a concept.

When you read the article about dyslexia, there is no picture and the text is not written to explain, it is imho badly written and it can do with an illustration or two. An encyclopaedia is to provide the basic information and getting this information across is what Wikipedia should aim for.

Your requirement of truthiness does not consider what should be primary; do we get the message across and will an illustration help.
Thanks,
        GerardM


On 29 October 2010 16:14, Paul Houle <paul@ontology2.com> wrote:
 On 10/28/2010 2:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Hoi,
> I am writing a series of blog posts about Commons. My aim is to
> identify the issues that I have with how it functions. There are
> several and I do not bother to write about the ones that are being
> tackled by the team around Guillaume (as far as it is clear to me what
> they are doing).
    I have to admit that I strongly disagree with the blog post

http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/10/stimulating-commons-stock-photo.html

    I think that photoshopped images like that one about Dyslexia have
no place anywhere around wikipedia.  An image like that just screams
"lie",  "false" and "designed to manipulate your emotions";  I see that
and I think of a cheezy informerical for a phonics program that's going
to cure your kid's dyslexia,  or some foundation that takes donations to
support the lifestyles of the people who run it.  It's fundamentally
dishonest.

    I'm not saying there's no art in that kind of thing,  or that it
doesn't have a place,  but it's not in Wikipedia.  If I saw this photo on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia

    I'd remove it.  In my mind,  images used on Wikipedia need to be
veridical,  which not all commercial illustration is (or needs to be.)

    As for the project of "better organizing images" that doesn't
necessarily have to be done inside Commons,  where a consensus-based
culture might inhibit the ability to get things done.  I'm taking a
crack at it at

http://ookaboo.com/

    That site is nowhere near where I plan it to be in a year,  and in
the long term it's going to take images in from other sources,  but at
the moment it's basically a collection of commons images organized a
different way.  I've got more navigational axes under development.

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