The question of deleted images on Commons is exactly isomorphic to the various Wikipedias refusing to host copy-pasted material taken from Cthulhu knows where. And I have never heard anybody suggest that Wikipedia would be more "reliable" is it accepted such material. I fail to see why it should be otherwise when Commons is concerned.

Oh and David Gerard, would you please stop your two-pence Darth Vader act? "Ksshhh Ksshhh, doesn't want to be regarded as a problem, Kssshhh, it needs to behave less like one, Kssshhh ksshhh". Seriously, it's embarassing.
  -- Rama



On 24 June 2014 18:36, Gnangarra <gnangarra@gmail.com> wrote:
Commons isnt damaged that needs to be routed around, the laws are an ass and problems will follow where ever, except to maybe a handful of countries who don't give a fluffy duck about copyright.

the problem is communication between projects, thats fixable




On 25 June 2014 00:29, David Gerard <dgerard@gmail.com> wrote:
On 24 June 2014 17:25, Chris McKenna <cmckenna@sucs.org> wrote:

> The problem is that people from other projects are uploading files in a good
> faith understanding that Commons will look after them, as they work on the
> principle that unless something is provably unfree then it is acceptable to
> host.
> Unfortunately, Commons actually operates on the principle that if there a
> possibility that someone somewhere may in future claim that a file is
> unfree, with or without proof, and with or without merit to the claim, then
> it cannot be held unless we have proof (of a higher standard than required
> by professional copyright lawyers) that the file is completely free in the
> US and the source country, now and at all conceivable future times, then it
> must be deleted. There is also a great reluctance to engage with anyone who
> has a lesser understanding of copyright than the self-educated and
> self-appointed experts on Commons, and with anyone who has a lesser grasp of
> English than they do. There is an equal reluctance to let anyone using the
> images know that there are questions about a file.
> Until this attitude changes, Commons is not and cannot be a reliable host of
> media for other projects, and usage as such must be deprecated and an
> alternative, reliable service project initiated.


+1. Commons is behaving like damage that needs to be routed around.


- d.

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