One does not need to pay "patent fees" -- whatever those are -- to Adobe for using Flash.  Just like people some people can create PDF files and read those (open office can create PDF files, for example) without paying royalties to Adobe, same can happen with Flash.

-ilya

On 9/29/06, Artur Fijałkowski <wiki.warx@gmail.com> wrote:
2006/9/29, Ilya Haykinson <haykinson@gmail.com>:
> I suggest that if we change our attitude and allow alternative,
> actually-workable presentation of our media, we will be more correctly
> fulfilling our mission.  Let's allow Flash for audio and video.
>
> -ilya haykinson

And of course YOU will pay patent fees to Macromedia for using Flash ?
Second thing that those flash movies (like eg. on youtube) are
disgusting - it's impossible to simply download it, it' working to
slow on my machine, the player is wrong designed, etc.

I think that the right way is to teach people how use free tools and
force them to use it, then force everybody to use properiaty software,
couse it's easier for windows users...

AJF/WarX
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