Who ho ho

127 mails about the POTD :p Could you do this discussion on commons unstead of pollute the mails boxes ?
I like this list when it subject is about new features or nice markus' tools... But I don't really like when it talk about never-end debates...

On a tous tété un jour, il n'y a pas de quoi en faire un fromage.
Everybody had suckle once a day, there is no way to make a cheese about.

Florian Farge aka Otourly
Sur les projets wikimédiens et l'Association française, sur OxyRadio, OSM, et sur MOVIM
Socio di Wikimedia Italia

De : Nathan <nawrich@gmail.com>
À : Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Envoyé le : Lun 16 mai 2011, 22h 39min 20s
Objet : Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Chris McKenna <cmckenna@sucs.org> wrote:

> I don't know where you get the impression that anyone here is promoting
> any sort of lackadaiscial attitude?
> As far as I read the arguments we have two groups of people, those who
> want to censor images that they do not like or that they think other
> people will not like; and those that want to actively stand up for the
> rights to an uncensored collection of free media.
> Commons is not censored, if you want a collection of free media that does
> not offend you or someone else then you are in the wrong place.
> ----
> Chris McKenna
> cmckenna@sucs.org
> www.sucs.org/~cmckenna

Someone reading this conversation might almost think that "uncensored
images" is the defining core value of Commons. If that's actually the
case, some rebranding is necessary. I imagine you could certainly
attract an audience with a site advertised as being uncensored, but I
was always under the impression that Commons and Wikimedia were out
for a broader, more fully clothed audience.

What's funny is that you actually think you are arguing against
attempts at censorship; what this demonstrates more than anything else
is that you have deeply misunderstood censorship and what it means.
Unfortunately, you are obviously not nearly open minded enough to
learn from any explanation.

I will try to make one point: You are not in any sense the proprietor,
gatekeeper, authority or representative of Commons the project or its
community. You have no right to tell people "If you don't like it, get
out" as you have done several times. They are as free to express their
opinion as you are, and many (as you've no doubt noticed) disagree
with you. So why not take a break from telling people to go away?


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