and not the authority to push them without 'community
consent'.
Sysops on Commons arent just handed the tools they first must seek a level
of trust from the community that trust is because there are times when a
person must act in the interest of Commons. As a long term sysop on Commons
and one the higher end contributors sysops do have a level of authority and
need to exercise their judgement more frequently without discussion then
other larger projects (like de,en) one the problems is that at times there
arent the experienced people around to enable a thorough discussion before
acting.
This is a particluar problem with local copyright issues as an Australian I
got a good understand of OZ law and know where to get more info, I also
gained a fair understanding of US over time and out of necessity but I have
a very limited smattering of it for elsewhere when there is the necessity to
make a move if I cant get independent opinions/help then I would defer to
safest solution for Commons
As Andrew said The Foundation has a significant authority to step in to
issues and take the lead or if necessary dictate the end result. The reason
being is that The Foundation can and does have a legal responsability, it
would be also be the target of any action and initial Point of Call on
documents.
The up coming GLAM event in Canberra <http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/GLAM> is
going to touch on this very issue, if you arent already aware of it it'd be
worth see what this event achieves
2009/6/15 Andrew Turvey <andrewrturvey(a)googlemail.com>
----- "Dedalus" <dedalus(a)wikipedia.be>
wrote:
From: "Dedalus"
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To: commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Sunday, 14 June, 2009 18:57:23 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
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Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Some reflections about
the governance of Commons
> This Spring the WMF has initiated a year long strategy formation process
... I
would like to invite all participants in this discussion, and all
participants in the [[massive upload conflict]]s to participate this year,
just started, and ending summer 2010, in the overall Wikimedia Foundation
strategy formation process.
I'd be keen to be involved as we have a mass upload project planned for
some time in the next 6-12 months. How can we do this?
> And, as far as I know, a sysop is just a
technical function, with the
ability (some buttons) and not the authority to push
them without 'community
consent'.
Sorry, but that's very naive. Sysops are always more than a technical
function - they have authority, like it or not.
> And one last thing: Commons, like all
projects, are independent of the
WMF, the Board of the WMF can't impose
anything on the project.
Again, not true. WMF always has the ultimate power to step in and impose a
solution through "office actions". Not saying they necessarily should, but
they can if they need to.
Andrew
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