On Jul 7, 2007, at 9:08 PM, Ayelie wrote:
> Hmm, good points... also, what about an option that allows
> releasing into the public domain? Right now they don't have that
> option, it's a CC license or All Rights Reserved. In many cases
> (such as if we were to upload some of our FPs to Flickr) we would
> run into issues with having to say they are under a CC license when
> in fact they are PD or other.

In most jurisdictions it is simply not possible to really "release
into the public domain". It is a complicated and sad situation.

In terms of a release, the best one can do generally is CC BY.

But you are right that some photos actually are public domain, and
perhaps Flickr should have a way for people to flag that. But since
most people have no clue that you can't really release things into
the public domain in most jurisdictions, this would probably be a net
LOSS for free culture, because people would start incorrectly flagged
photos as "PD" in cases where they WISH they could do that, but
can't, and so if they understood it would choose CC BY.

--Jimbo

Yes, this is very true; which is why on our PD licenses we have the "In case this is not legally possible I here by revoke all claim..." or whatever it is, I can't remember off the top of my head. As Brianna said there is a CC-PD license which would work well.

On 7/8/07, Brianna Laugher <brianna.laugher@gmail.com> wrote:

Flickr is geared towards people uploading their own work. It might be
worth checking if there is something in the TOS against uploading
others' work (regardless or whether or not license terms allow it).

cheers
Brianna

Yes, that was something I was thinking about when talking to Casey earlier but neglected to add to the message. If we ensure it isn't against Flickr policies and check to make sure it won't cause problems, well. I know on Commons and Wikipedia we don't like to allow "company" accounts or the like, but if we let Flickr people know that this account will be used only by certified people ( i.e. admins, people who have been given access after a vote etc.) and that we are uploading already-existing images ...