On 10/1/06, Platonides <Platonides(a)gmail.com> wrote:
So at last it is here? Congratulations!
However...
*It doesn't work for me (start & stop buttons do nothing).
*I can't find how the applet gets the file to play. I guess the above
problem has to do with the applet may need to get passed the file location
on jorbis.player.play.0 instead of
http://tools.wikimedia.de/media/wikipedia//d/d4/
That is the file location: Unsigned java applets can only build
connections to the server which sourced them, so toolserver runs a
proxy which makes all the media available under that directory.
What is the file you are attempting to play? I've had a few cases
where bizarre characters were breaking the MD5 generation.. although I
believe most of them have been solved.
The single most common cause of failure to play is that around 20% of
the users whom have Java have a version of java which is so old that
it doesn't have JavaSound (which is needed to produce anything other
than 8bit, 8khz audio). Microsoft clients appear to be the most
frequent victims of this. Note that the issue is no better in the
flash world: folks with flash 7 and older can't watch any of the video
sites.
*The link to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_help.
is not very useful, it
redirects to [[Wikipedia:Media_help]] where there's no reference to it.
Neither from [[Wikipedia:Media]]
*The page (/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php as per Minh Nguyen msg) shows
too Beta. Not like a finished and usable tool (well, it seems it isn't).
Hm. I missed that the media page is a redirect, but it makes no
difference... Please read rather than skim: "f you are unable to use
this player you will need to install a program to play Ogg format
audio. Please see the Wikipedia directions at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_help"
I.e. if this doesn't work for you, you'll have to install a local
player. I don't think it would be wise of us to instruct people on
how to install a newer version of Java for three reasons:
1) If the user has enough permissions and patience to upgrade java
then they can install a native player.
2) The user expirence with a local native player will always be better.
3) Right now the Java implimentations which are easily installable for
Windows/Mac are non-free software.
In any case, the player has been used successfully by tens of
thousands of people. I'm aware of no standing cases where it does not
work so long as you meet the basic requirement of a new enough java
implimentation.
By calling it beta I was hoping to solicit additional feedback (and
perhaps discourage the propagation of its use: it will be replaced by
a system with tighter mediawiki integration once that work is done)...
... But I've had very little feedback overal, so perhaps calling it
beta was a mistake.
Thanks fo the reference. Java is quite the same as the
Flash solutions.
Quite the same for the user ease, yes... but not at all the same in
terms of keeping our content in formats which respect the free nature
of the content.