--- On Tue, 17/5/11, Chris McKenna <cmckenna@sucs.org> wrote:
> From: Chris McKenna <cmckenna@sucs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons> Date: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011, 15:04
> To: "Wikimedia Commons Discussion List" <commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
This never was justifiable as a featured picture to begin with. As it was,> On Tue, 17 May 2011, Andreas Kolbe
> wrote:
> > The images from today and yesterday are:
> >
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Turbo_imperialis_01.jpg
> >
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg
> >
> > If you are unwilling to recognise the difference in
> terms of educational vs.
> > artistic content, nothing I say is likely to make any
> difference. Frankly,
> > it's not even worth discussing.
> >
>
> "Featured pictures are images that the community has chosen
> to be
> highlighted as some of the finest on Commons." Both today's
> and
> yesterday's main page images are featured pictures.
>
> I am not making any judgement regarding educational or
> illustrative
> content, (both images are equally usable for educational
> purposes, albeit
> different ones) other than if two images are recognised to
> be of the same
> standard ("featured status") then they should be treated as
> having equal
> value to the project. If we want to treat artistic and
> illustrative works
> differently then we need separate standards to judge them
> by (instead of
> or as well as "featured status", I can see arguments for
> both). If we want
> to say that some featured pictures are more valuable to the
> project than
> others then we need some other status for one or other of
> the groups.
it scraped through in Commons 8:2:2,
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg
with support comments that don't make a good case at all, and failed to
attract support in German Wikipedia:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder/Archiv2011/1#On_the_edge_.E2.80.93_2._Januar_bis_16._Januar_-_Contra
There were no calls to stop featuring work of non-notable Wikimedians. If we
> Yesterday there were calls that we should not be featuring
> the work of
> non-notable Wikimedians full stop. Today were are featuring
> the work of an
> equally non-notable Wikimedian and there are no calls for
> the image not to
> be shown on the main page on these grounds.
did that, almost all photographs of buildings, plants, mountains would be
disqualified. The actual point is quite different.
Commons does not host original art by non-notable Wikimedians that does not
have an obvious educational use. That is Commons policy. Commons is not for
fan art; DeviantArt is the right place for such images.
Even if you disagree with me and assert that the image does have educational
value, featured picture criteria require notability (nope), high artistic
merit (nope), high illustrative merit (nope, this is an independent work of
art, rather than an illustration of anything pre-existing), or high historic
merit (nope).
Andreas
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