Didn't realize this was crossposted, so i geuss i'll forward to commons-l

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From: bawolff <bawolff+wn@gmail.com>
Date: Apr 23, 2007 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] [Commons-l] Accredited photographer status?
To: Wikinews mailing list < wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org>


See also: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Accreditation_policy
and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_accreditation_policy

As far as accredited photographer, on english wikinews its mixed
opinion as to what to do. I personally think That it should be
coordinated with commons. We had a bunch of commoners apply for
accreditation without ever contributing to wikinews, and most of them
got rejected (all except [[user:Gmaxwell]] i believe/ Mostly because
it felt wrong to give someone who is only there for the accreditation,
the accreditation).

On a side note, we had one accredited photographer who actively
contributed to wikinews [[User:Aselman]], as well as Zannium
semi-hiring John Mueller (
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Academy_Awards_afterparty_CUN_Blu_Cantrell.jpg
) As well as the accredited people who aren't ''photographers'', but
know how to click the button on a camera.

-bawolff
On 4/23/07, Delphine Ménard < notafishz@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we have had this accreditation conversation already, I can't
> remember where (foundation-l? wikinews-l?) or when. Sorry.
>
> The answer is very simple: For those countries where accreditation is
> a legal matter (France is one of them), the Foundation, or the
> chapters, cannot and will not give this accreditation.
>
> For those countries where the whole accreditation process is more
> open, then it could be imagined that the Wikinews community recognize
> some people as "wiki journalists" or something.
>
> Please remember that as soon as the organisation "endorses" any person
> to contribute content to the projects, it puts itself in a "publisher"
> kind of position, which we need to avoid at all costs, since the
> organisation is *not* a publisher.
>
> Delphine
>
> On 4/23/07, Andre Engels < andreengels@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2007/4/23, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom@gmail.com>:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Last week-end there was the first round of the French presidential election.
> > > People from Wikimedia France have been working hard to attend meetings of
> > > the candidates to take plenty of photos of them and other politicians or
> > > artists supporting them. Wikimedia France has even issued a press release :
> > > <
> > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CP_Couverture_%C3%A9lection>
> > > and <
> > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:French_presidential_election_%282007%29>
> > > (browse the subcategories).
> > >
> > > To get an official press card in France, more than 50% of your total income
> > > must come from your activities as a journalist or photographer <
> > > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carte_de_presse_en_France>.
> > > Photographers and reporters from Wikimedia projects can obviously not get
> > > this precious pass. Though, an accreditation letter from an institution
> > > (along with a professional camera and a big amount of self-confidency) can
> > > be enough.
> > >
> > > I know the English-language Wikinews provides such accreditations for
> > > reporters. The French-language one doesn't. We have been forced to contact
> > > each party and request temporary press passes for each meeting. Although we
> > > are very proud of what we have accomplished, it would be great if we had
> > > some accreditation letters as photographers. Should they come from Wikinews?
> > > Commons? Dunno.
> > >
> > > Browsing through the archives of Wikinews Water cooler, I have found this
> > > discussion :
> > > http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/Archive/15#Accredited_photographer_status.3F
> > >
> > > Has there been any follow-up about this issue? If not, could we work on it?
> >
> > It seems to me that the accreditation can only be done by a legal
> > entity, and thus the accreditor at least formally should be the
> > Wikimedia Foundation or its French chapter. Of course they could leave
> > the decision as to who to actually completely dependent on the advise
> > by Commons or Wikinews or whatever. For PR reasons I think it would be
> > good to have 'Wikipedia' written on the accreditations (along with
> > Wikinews and Commons, and of course the WMF) - It's much better known
> > than the other projects, and thus could give an air of seriousness to
> > the user that otherwise he would not have.
> >
> >
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> >
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