inthe third point of Turelio its an interesting approach and a good one maybe highlighting the statistics(numbers are the same no matter the language) could be of benefit and constructive in helping new users understand the need for accurancy in the first instance when uploading.


Yesterday in Commons
uploaded in the previous 24 hours: 35,000 media files of which the following issues were identified;
Copyright violations:500
missing author information:4500
missing licensing or permission: 3000
(Otrs permissions recieved:10)
uncategorised:7000
nondescript names:900
media deleted:2000


stats are not actual just fictional to illistrate a thought they could also be for different periods depending on what is the simplist sampling method, a month period would mean less updating of the stats but may render the impact less effective because of high values being uncomprehensible and repetative This could be transcluded wholis or in relivant parts onto every notice template so that all editors, not just new ones are made aware of the work load they are creating for other users.



On 28 February 2011 18:59, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo@gmail.com> wrote:


2011/2/28 <Turelio001@aol.com>

"users from Germany are the root of the problem" (Lars Aronsson, Commons-l, 27 Feb 2011)

Wow. I never expected to read such a phrase on Commons-l. Though I hate to possibly fulfil Godwin's law, when reading Aronsson's above cited claim, the infamous Nazi slogan "The Jews are our misfortune" (sv: "Judarna är vår olycka") came to my mind.


I don't like some statements of this 3d. My English skill is very limited, and what I'd like to tell is rather complex, so please consider this point when reading.... don't be hurted: I don't want to hurt anyone.

First of all: thanks to any admin engaged in partolling and fixing innumerable mistakes that I currently do.

Second. I learnt from Konrad Lorentz how difficult is communication between different cultures. The same behaviour, the same gesture, the same words can sound perfectly sound or very cold and hurting: it's simply a matter of differencies in habits and conventions, with different, deep roots into local culture. I presume that such feel of kindness / rudeness emerges too from written language, just like it emerges from body language.

Third. I'd like that any new user could be alerted about this point. A new user have no idea about troubles of patrolling, and about how hard, and annoying, such a work is; nor he can imagine the number of edits that are needed to try to keep consistent something complex as Commons, and the mean time that a patroller can devoid to any one edit (five seconds? two seconds?). So, I presume that a big effort is needed to let new users known about this point, much more than trying to write "kind statements" that invariably will turn out far from perfect, in one or the other cultural, specific setting.

Alex

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