IMO, the license/upload problem is not as complicated as everyone makes
it out to be.
First of all, the upload form should /not/ be a venue for educating
people on copyright and free licenses. As painful as it may be, we need
to abandon our maternal instincts and assume that the uploader knows
what they're doing and give them the option of learning more /if they
want to/, not spamming the interface with endless explanations and caveats.
Secondly, we need to keep it simple. If the uploader owns the image,
give them 3 options:
* CC-zero (public domain)
* CC-by (attribution)
* CC-by-sa (attribution share-alike)
If they don't own the image, expose the rest of the options.
Thirdly, we should let each user set a default upload license for images
they own. They get to choose one of the 3 options above in their
preferences and that option is then preselected whenever the user starts
uploading an image they own.
Fourth, we leave the old crappy upload interface in place at some
alternate URL that is linked in microscopic text from the new upload
page and we rename it "Advanced Upload".
Fifth, we develop some solid client-side uploading tools so that regular
contributors don't have to bother with the web interface at all :)
Ryan Kaldari
On 7/22/10 7:20 PM, Gnangarra wrote:
LIcensing is a legal contract between the author,
wikimedia and any
reusers we should be ensuring the integrity of the authors choice in
the matter especially since we are effectively requiring the author to
abandon their rights altogether.
From what I've just read this is going ahead irreguardless in that
case I think that there should be at the very least a barrier/flag
before its usable like rollback, file mover and handful of other
functions <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights>
where by an editor requests the function then an admin can assign it
to them. That at least gives an opportunity for a review and an
attempt at ensuring that the user at least understands what they are
doing. It also gives us a time stamp/ip/username which we can point to
that the user accepted/acknowledged that they are agreeing to an
automated licensing process and accept responsibility for the end result.
A bookmark list of the users common licensing choices would be a
useful function to include because very few users only contribute one
type of image, personally I have 3 types that I'd use frequently
primarily CC-by(own photographs) also PD(self made maps), and
PD-Aust(old photographs from Australia)
On 23 July 2010 02:55, Platonides <Platonides(a)gmail.com
<mailto:Platonides@gmail.com>> wrote:
Gnangarra wrote:
Admins have always look unfavourably at deletion
request because the
loader says they didnt intend releasing the work for commercial
use or
thought they were only releasing for educational
use or some other
reason, we can do that because the person made the choice with
each and
every upload not us. Automatically prefilling the
upload form with a
license removes the choice/decision to over come that we would
then need
an alternative check box for the uploader to
acknowledge that they
understand the rights they are releasing.
We need people to freely release media, we need them to do in
such away
that we can be confident that what ever licensing
the uploader
chooses
it is them making the choice not us.
What about offering a "bookmark" of licenses? So you could save
the 2-3
licenses you tend to use, and still need a click to apply them to the
upload.
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