If by "antagonizing" you mean abide by the law and by "serve" you mean
act on wishful thinking then... sure.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Yann Forget <yannfo@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2014-06-21 2:27 GMT+05:30 Daniel Schwen <lists@schwen.de>:
>> I don't see notices sent to users on commons to vote on he.wp user
>> topic bans or policies. So, really, classifying this as a war
>> misrepresents the unilateral nature of the he.wp uprising against URAA
>> compliance.
>
> Commons is here to serve Wikipedia projects, not to antagonize them,
> like it is the case.
> I think users of the Hebrew Wikipedia has the right to know and to say
> what they think about what affects them.
>
> Yann
>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Yann Forget <yannfo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Suite of the drama.
>>>
>>> A request for a topic ban against LGA, who made these deletion
>>> requests, was started by Hanay, a user from the Hebrew Wikipedia.
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems#User:LGA
>>>
>>> Now she is blocked for one week for "canvassing", because she informed
>>> the Hebrew Wikipedia of the request.
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Blocks_and_protections#Block_of_Hanay_for_cross-wiki_canvassing
>>>
>>> This affair is going to degenerate in a full war between Commons and
>>> some Wikipedias, if a solution is not found.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Yann
>>>
>>> 2014-06-17 5:05 GMT+05:30 Yann Forget <yannfo@gmail.com>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Some Commons contributors like to ask impossible requirements, and
>>>> threaten to delete files if these are not met. We have now a case of
>>>> famous pictures from the government of Israel and Israel Defense
>>>> Forces.
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Matanya#Files_and_pages_that_were_deleted_by_User:Fastily_that_I_am_aware_of_them
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Beba_Idelson_Ada_Maimon1952.jpg
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Abba_Hushi_1956.jpg
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Aharon_Meskin_-_Ben_Gurion_-_Israel_Prize1960.jpg
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Avraham_Shlonsky_1952.jpg
>>>>
>>>> These are famous and valuable pictures, including two featured
>>>> pictures on the Hebrew Wikipedia. These files have already been
>>>> deleted and restored 3 times. When the URAA issue was not convincing
>>>> enough, a new reson for deletion was advanced: that publication
>>>> details were not given. Anyone with 2 bits of common sense can
>>>> understand that these famous pictures were published soon after they
>>>> were taken. There is no reasonable doubt about that. In addition,
>>>> publication is not a requirement for being in the public domain in
>>>> Israel.
>>>>
>>>> After I restored these images, I was threatem by LGA, who is a
>>>> delete-only account:
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems#User:Yann
>>>> There, more contributors argue on this issue.
>>>>
>>>> By asking absurb requirements about publication details, these
>>>> contributors threaten the project as a whole. If insisting, it will
>>>> lead people to upload pictures like these locally instead of Commons.
>>>> Then the idea of a central repository for all Wikimedia projects is
>>>> gone.
>>>>
>>>> Instead of looking for a reason to destroy these files, they should
>>>> try to find a reason to keep them.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Yann
>>>
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