Hoi,
I do not know if you were present at the recent chat, I could not be there
but I could read the log ... You may have been at the chat, you may have
read the log [1].
I did read the log and it did not motivate me at all. If anything it made
me sad. From what I read, people were concerned about the things they are
currently working on and it was all about ensuring that nothing would be
lost nothing would change really.
I did not get any feeling for the reasons why the Wikidatification of media
files is worthwhile. I feel really bad about this because the purpose of it
all is so important.
It is all about PEOPLE.
People that will find images with "een hond, een kat, een paard" or "ein
Hund, eine Katze, ein Pferd" ....
When these people are eight years old and "only" 50% of pictures with such
a subject like dog cat or horse can be found in this way, we have
accomplished a lot. It is a 100% improvement.
All the current categories and templates have their place and the
information that is in that data will be converted straight away or
eventually. It does not matter really, What matters is that we focus on the
application of what we do. Who benefits, how do we transition to where we
want to be. How do we make sure that we gain the most of all the work we
do, have done and will do.
It starts with obvious benefits.. Enabling people to use the media files is
what the wikidatification of media files is about. That may already be too
abstract; when it is, it is about finding doggies, kitties and horsies..
When the Wikidatification is about such tangible objectives, who will
object ? With objectives like that, the devil is still in the detail but we
will see the forest from the trees.
Thanks,
GerardM
[1]
https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/wikimedia-office.20…
Thanks, Fae.
Toni
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> Dr Vinesh Patel, who is a long standing Wikipedian and a medical doctor
> based in London, has the following questions in relation to work on
> WikiProject Medicine.
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> 1. We would like to have a rotating format for each surgical instrument,
> ideally. Something like the ones on this page
> http://www.ajax-zoom.com/examples/example15.php (hover over image and move
> cursor to see) - is this possible on Wikipedia? How would we upload it.
> 2. Can we use Adobe lightroom as a photo processor?
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> He is not subscribed to this mailing list, so I will relay any responses on
> to him.
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> Many thanks,
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Dear all,
some of you may have been at our presentation during Wikimania and you'll
find this familiar, but for the rest of you, I'm working with Commons
Machinery on software that will hope to identify images on the web, even
when they are used outside of their original context, to provide automatic
attribution and a referral back to its origin. Imagine a blogger using a
photo from Commons, visiting that blog and having a browser plugin overlay
a small icon showing that the image is from Commons and inviting to find
out more - even if the blogger forgot to attribute.
We're currently working on an addon for Firefox to do just this, and we've
previously worked out a backend to store the information we need to make
these matches, some utilities for perceptual image hashing etc. We would
love to work with images from Wikimedia Commons as a first dataset to
explore how this will all work in practice.
But in order to do so, we need information from Commons, and we want to
make this as easy on the WMF servers as possible, so we'd appreciate some
help and pointers. What we're looking at retrieving is information about
(1) title, (2) author, (3) license, and (4) thumbnails of medium size.
The first three we can get from pretty much either API, or extract directly
from a dump file. The latter is eluding us though, for two reasons. One is
that a file, like 30C3_Commons_Machinery_2.jpg, is actually in the /b/ba/
directory - but where this /b/ba/ comes from (a hash?) is unclear to us
now, and it's not something we find in the dumps - though we can get it
from one of the APIs.
The other is thumbnail sizes. We need to retrieve a reasonably sized image
(but in many cases less than the original size) of about 640px wide, so
that we can then run a perceptual hash algorithm on this file.
>From what we can understand, you can request any size thumbnail on an image
simply by prefixing it with the size you want (like 123x-Filename.jpg). But
it seems really silly to always request 640x for instance, since that would
mean the WMF servers would need to generate that for us specifically if the
resolution doesn't exist.
What we'd find much more appealing is to be able to determine before making
the call what sizes already exist and which can be retrieved without the
WMF servers needing to rescale them for us. And while the viewer on Commons
do seem to offer thumbnails in various sizes, we can't seem to get that
information from any API.
We can scrape the Commons web page for this information, but we figured
that people here might have good ideas for how we approach this with
minimal impact on the WMF servers :)
Sincerely,
Jonas
Dr Vinesh Patel, who is a long standing Wikipedian and a medical doctor
based in London, has the following questions in relation to work on
WikiProject Medicine.
1. We would like to have a rotating format for each surgical instrument,
ideally. Something like the ones on this page
http://www.ajax-zoom.com/examples/example15.php (hover over image and move
cursor to see) - is this possible on Wikipedia? How would we upload it.
2. Can we use Adobe lightroom as a photo processor?
He is not subscribed to this mailing list, so I will relay any responses on
to him.
Many thanks,
Toni
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Dr Toni Sant - Education Organiser, Wikimedia UK
toni.sant(a)wikimedia.org.uk +44 (0)7885 980 536
Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
Hi folks,
As a reminder, we hope you can join our Structured Data Q&A chat on IRC tomorrow, Wed. Sep. 3 at 18:00 UTC:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data#Discussions
Note that the chat starts one hour earlier than previously announced. To see how it converts to your timezone, use this tool:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Structured+Data+IR…
Our Multimedia team and the Wikidata team will be on hand for this discussion, as well as some of the community volunteers who are spearheading this project with us, such as Multichill, TheDJ and others.
Even if you can’t join the chat, we encourage you to check the project overview on Commons and answer some of the questions on its talk page:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data
We also invite you to form small workgroups to investigate topics like workflows, data structure, research, platform, features, migration and other open issues. If
you are interested in contributing to one of these workgroups, you are welcome to sign up on directly on our hub page.
We look forward to a productive discussions with many of you tomorrow.
Regards as ever,
Fabrice — for the Structured Data team
Greetings! The Wikimedia Foundation Individual Engagement Grants program is
accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th.
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG>
Your idea can improve Wikimedia projects by building a new tool or gadget,
organizing a better process on your wiki, conducting research on an
important issue, or providing other support for community-building. Whether
you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your
own project development time in addition to funding for a team to help you.
The program has a flexible schedule and reporting structure, and
Grantmaking staff are there to support you through all stages of the
process.
Do you have have a good idea, but you are worried that it isn’t developed
enough for a grant? Put it into the IdeaLab, where volunteers and staff
can give you advice and guidance on how to bring it to life. <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab> Also, IEG will be hosting
three Hangout Sessions for real-time discussions to help you make your
proposal better - the first will happen on September 16th. <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Events#Upcoming_events>
For inspiration, you can read more about past projects that received
funding<https://blog.wikimedia.org/tag/individual-engagement-grants/> or
review open proposals <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-reviewing>. We are excited
to see some of the new ways your grant ideas can support our community and
make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects.
Submit your proposal in September!
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-apply>
Warm regards,
Ocaasi and the IEG Committee
