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> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:27:53 +0100
> From: "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Nice one from Durova
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> On 11/09/2007, Ayelie <ayelie.at.large(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 9/11/07, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > http://searchengineland.com/070911-083723.php
>
> > I see this possibly leading to slews of watermarked images stamped with
> > website addresses.
> > :(
>
>
> So? They're Crappy and will end up being Replaced. Or the watermark removed.
>
> I'm currently working out a useful way to reliably get entertainment
> industry promo photos Free, as in what would make them flock to us. A
> few really crappy examples would be a start.
>
> (e.g. "You don't get to have a good photo under your control. You get
> a crappy photo that's under a suitable license, or you give us a good
> photo under a suitable license. The latter is probably a lot more to
> your liking and that of your artists.")
>
> The hardest part is working out where to put it that it would actually
> get read by the target audience. Ideas?
>
>
> - d.
>
>
>
If you're looking for example of crappy images of people, try Belinda
Stronach, the only image we have of her alone is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Belinda_Stronach_at_Leadership_conventio…
which is so horrible, it was removed from the wikipedia page (I think)
-bawolff
Yesterday I saw Flickr's function "rotate image". This is really great,
especially for people with lower bandwidth. Could we do something like that,
too?
Idea 1: A tool that downloads the image, rotates it and uploads it either
under the username of the one who called it or by its own username.
Idea 2: A bot which does that. You can call the bot by {{rotate|right}} or
{{rotate|left}}
What do you think? Would that be possible?
Regards,
Flo
We currently have a lot of images without the information tag. Without
it the authorship of an image may be unclear. (Example:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Olive-tree-fruit-augus…)
Would it be a bad idea to have a campaign to get the {{Information}}
template used on *all* our images?
For those who don't read my blog - just forwarding to various lists in
English and if needed, please forward it to the various project lists.
Thank you!!!
Sabine
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Well, dealing with the Fundraiser 2007 I am trying to involve the whole
of the communities. But that seems easier that it really is ... one
things: oh well, there are the village pumps and you just go around them
... or you go through the mailing lists (but not all projects have one)
... or in the worst case you use the various chat rooms ... well no, it
does not really work ... a really well structured communication in this
specific moment is not possible - and in some way we should think about
a solution.
Village pumps:
I am getting step by step to them - there is no all comprehensive page -
but even if there was there is one huge problem: they are structured
very different from one project to the other. Often I posted "somewhere"
without even understanding if it was the right place ... some have extra
pages for messages written in a different language from theirs (but then
again: there you don't reach a maximum number of people who maybe would
help). Some have different sectors for different themes ... but again:
there you don't reach all potential people, just the part of them that
goes to the "general" village pump page. Uhmmmmmm ...... not sure how to
sort this out ... and no: I would be agains a page for special
"foundation information" since again it would be read by only a part of
the users/editors and these would probably be more or less the same ones
who read foundation list ....
Now I asked for a bot that can help us to add new sections to specific
pages within the pywikipediabot framework - this would at least make one
part of it easier, not having to go around all projects, but still the
"how to communicate effectively" problem remains ....
For now, until we maybe get a better solution, I would like to ask
people from the various projects to check the page where I list the
village pumps
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2007/Village_Pumps> and
change the links I have there to the page where they want to have the
messages added - for all projects please - this will help all of us to
live an easier wiki-life. During the next days I will then make another
round around the various Village Pumps asking people to correct the link
on the page above if necessary.
I am sorry, but for now I don't see a different way to get this on the way.
And please: all links to all projects are needed - also the smallest
ones ... they all have the same relevance.
Thanks!!!
--
Posted By Sabine Cretella to words & more
<http://sabinecretella.blogspot.com/2007/09/fundraiser-2007-communication-wi…>
at 9/08/2007 02:35:00 PM
A site that may be of interest (or a source :)):
http://www.burningwell.org/
"BurningWell is a repository for public domain (free for any use)
images. You are free to download, copy and use the photos you find
here for any purpose."
They're running Gallery 2. I wonder how it will scale.
They make anyone submitting a photo with people in it also submit a
model release.
cheers
Brianna
--
They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment:
http://modernthings.org/
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:58:40 +1000
From: "Brianna Laugher" <brianna.laugher(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Video/audio player extension
now on test.wikipedia.org
To: commons-l <commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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Please go test it aggressively and report any problems (what happened,
what was supposed to happen, what were you doing, what system do you
use). This is exciting!
thanks,
Brianna
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From: Tim Starling <tstarling(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: 06-Sep-2007 09:15
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Video/audio player extension now on test.wikipedia.org
To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
The video/audio player extension that I've been writing over the last
couple of weeks is now live on test.wikipedia.org. You can see an example
here:
http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Test_Bungy.ogg
Documentation is here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
I want to put this live on all Wikimedia wikis in the very near future.
-- Tim Starling
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Works great for me (Firefox 2.0.0.2 on linux (gentoo) with java 1.4.2_13-b06
-bawolff
Hi folks,
It's about time we had this page:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships
I listed the four I could think of off the top of my head
(Directmedia, Pearson-Scott Foresman, Wikimedia Israel, iHeritage)...
are there others? It would be embarrassing to miss them :)
So, the new one is iHeritage!
http://icommons.org/iheritage
Project by iCommons to collect media relating to South African culture
and heritages, and upload them to Commons and/or Flickr.
I found out about this by accident a couple of weeks ago when I joined
the iCommons website. It was a nice surprise. Jimmy must be doing some
Wikimedia Commons evangelism on the sly. ;)
It would be good if we can set up a specialised info page for this
project. They are having a big uploading day on the 23rd of September.
Hopefully we might get a bit more info and set something up by then.
cheers,
Brianna
--
They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment:
http://modernthings.org/
Hello,
If you click on an image at (en.) Wikipedia that is from hosted on
Commons you get to a page with the text:
"This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. The description on its
description page there is shown below.
Commons is a freely licensed media file repository. You can help. "
The words "You can help" link to the image upload form at
Commons:Upload/en. I think it would be better if "You can help" would
link to Commons:Welcome, which gives an introduction and lists several
ways in which one can help the Commons. It is a lot more friendly for
potential contributers than just showing them the upload form, and
lets people know you can contribute in other ways than just uploading
images.
What do people think?
regards,
Sander Sepp
user:S Sepp
On 9/6/07, Platonides <Platonides(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Agree. We don't need to have ONE template on ALL images, we can (and
> should) have a number of templates, as long as it's documented. Ie. we
> have a page listing all of "valid" templates and describing its
> arguments. If a bot knows that Information_Louvre->source is equivalent
> to Information->Author it can happily work with any of them being
> present. Just keep it documented (and a working parsing implementation).
>
> Another example are PD books templates. They have everything about the
> image "Page X from book Y, by Foo on Year on public domain". Here the
> source & author values for the template would be hardcoded.
The problem that comes up is that people just constantly invent new
templates often with trivial differences like hard-coded sources,
authorship, or licensing information. These are especially bad cases
because when it's stuffed into the template it is as though it isn't
provided at all.. until someone goes through and special-cases that
template. Eventually we'll end up with 10million images and 1 million
templates, one for each source.. just because our uploading tools suck
and people are abusing templates to avoid retyping source or licensing
info. :-/
It's utterly unacceptable to expect any tools to keep up with that.
Most of the fields in information are common to virtually every image
why should someone have to support 40 different ways of reading the
same three or four basic pieces of information which are common to all
images? Why should the same basic three or four fields have a
different presentation randomly on some images?
It would be better to add lots of optional arguments to information..
or offer secondary additional information templates which have less
uniformity but more flexibility.
Hi, again we need your help :-)
Now we have a group on Flickr where people can express why they love the
wikimedia projects - more about this here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2007/WikiLove_campaign
We need the translation of a short text (see link above) in the
following languages:
* English (well that is of course already done - it is just for
completion)
* French
* German
* Italian
* Korean
* Portuguese
* Spanish
* Traditional Chinese
It would be great if some of you could help :-) and maybe pass the
information on to the relevant Village Pumps and discussion lists.
Thank you!!!
Sabine
*****
Sabine Cretella
PM Fundraiser 2007
scretella(a)wikimedia.org
skype:sabinecretella
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SabineCretella
