I think the primary question to answer for any use case is "How does this
help the larger Wikimedia community?". If you believe a project you are a
part of does help the Wikimedia community and would benefit from the
platforms WMCS provides, I encourage you to request a toolforge account or
open a cloud VPS request (
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2875/) to ask for those
resources. Please provide as much detail on what you intend to do and the
impact it will have. Note that requests are reviewed, and the wiki has some
helpful details about how requests are considered:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Cloud_VPS_project#Reviews_of_Cloud….
Specific questions on suitability can be better addressed in the form of a
request, but let us know if the you still have general questions.
So please, file a request if you feel there is a good fit. That said I'll
try and provide some quick thoughts to your questions:
revi, a bot for non-WMF wikis at first glance doesn't seem to meet the
requirement of helping the Wikimedia community. I'd need more detail to
understand if that is the case.
Kimmo, I'm not familiar with Sophox, but perhaps the project's needs go
behind what WMCS is offering? It's also slightly fuzzy on the project focus
between OSM and Wikimedia that would need to be addressed.
I hope this helps!
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 5:19 AM Kimmo Virtanen <kimmo.virtanen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi
Sorry if this is too offtopic in the original context, but this thread
seemed to be a suitable place to ask this.
Sophox (Open Street Maps SPARQL interface by Yurik)[1] is currently down
by hardware failure and it is currently rebuilded on top of the Google
cloud services. However, if the GCS is not suitable then would it be
possible that WMCS would support the Sophox by offering the
hardware/hosting for the Sophox if they ask for it?
I think that use of OSM sparql endpoint would benefit if it would be
connected to Wikidata Query Service and Wikimedia Commons Query Services
with fast connections, but i can see also that hosting high performance
SPARQL endpoint is not trivial task.[3]
(Note: I am not connected to Sophox, but I used it for Wikimedia related
queries)
[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sophox
[2]
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085714.html
[3]
https://github.com/Sophox/sophox
Br,
-- Kimmo Virtanen, Zache
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:26 AM Jaime Crespo <jcrespo(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
revi,
The terms of use are clarified at:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitech:Cloud_Services_Terms_of_use
WMCS is indeed not a general purpose MediaWiki-hosting platform (there
are already hosting businesses for that), but MediaWiki could be hosted for
projects that follow the terms of use- some of them may not be immediately
apparent. For example, if
translatewiki.org wanted to be hosted in WMF
Cloud, I think everybody would be happy, as it is the main tool used for
Wikimedia project translation, even if it is also used for 3rd party ones.
Several communities (e.g. Wikimedia user groups) are offered cloud or even
production wiki hosting if they are key to the advancement to the mission:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/mission/
If you believe someone may be violating the terms of service, to the
detriment of the community, send a notification in private to the Cloud
Team and they can have a look.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:58 AM revi <lists(a)revi.email> wrote:
Question: Is it permitted to use WMCS (be it Cloud VPS or Toolforge)
resources for non-Wikimedia, Mediawiki-run website purposes? (Let's assume
sites like FANDOM(Wikia), Miraheze, or
https://librewiki.net )
Background: I was discussing some non-wikimedia (but mediawiki-run site)
stuff at some chatroom. Someone there thought they could use Wikimedia
Cloud resources for non-WMF websites (I don't know if it relates to MW
development) purposes. I am not sure if this is allowed (my interpretation
is that it is not allowed), so I want some clarification on that.
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