Today somebody on IRC pointed out the existence of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/maybe_analytics/ which seems to be entirely unused (created in Feb 2015).
Its description implies that its intended use is more or less the same as the #Blocked-on-Analytics project (created in Dec 2014).
So can this project be archived? If not, how do you plan to actually use it?
Generally speaking: I'm not aware of a task where the creation of this project was proposed / discussed. For future reference, please respect https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects
andre
I am not opposed to archiving it... but would like to hear from our agile-coach Grace who created this project. She's offsite at a training and will be back in the office next week.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org wrote:
Today somebody on IRC pointed out the existence of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/maybe_analytics/ which seems to be entirely unused (created in Feb 2015).
Its description implies that its intended use is more or less the same as the #Blocked-on-Analytics project (created in Dec 2014).
So can this project be archived? If not, how do you plan to actually use it?
Generally speaking: I'm not aware of a task where the creation of this project was proposed / discussed. For future reference, please respect https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects
andre
Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
The project is intended for Analytics customers to alert Analytics of work in their products that they think might intersect with ours. It's a way of giving Analytics an early heads-up so that Analytics can either say,"Thanks for the early warning!" or "Thanks, but this does not touch Analytics."
We can remind participants at Scrum-of-Scrums that they can use this project.
So for now, please do not archive it. Thanks!
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Kevin Leduc kevin@wikimedia.org wrote:
I am not opposed to archiving it... but would like to hear from our agile-coach Grace who created this project. She's offsite at a training and will be back in the office next week.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org wrote:
Today somebody on IRC pointed out the existence of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/maybe_analytics/ which seems to be entirely unused (created in Feb 2015).
Its description implies that its intended use is more or less the same as the #Blocked-on-Analytics project (created in Dec 2014).
So can this project be archived? If not, how do you plan to actually use it?
Generally speaking: I'm not aware of a task where the creation of this project was proposed / discussed. For future reference, please respect https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects
andre
Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
On Fri, 2015-04-17 at 18:15 -0700, Grace Gellerman wrote:
The project is intended for Analytics customers to alert Analytics of work in their products that they think might intersect with ours. It's a way of giving Analytics an early heads-up so that Analytics can either say,"Thanks for the early warning!" or "Thanks, but this does not touch Analytics."
We can remind participants at Scrum-of-Scrums that they can use this project.
Isn't that pretty much what https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/blocked-on-analytics/ is for? Both projects should receive urgent triage anyway (and hence a decision whether a task is actually Analytics territory or not), but I see zero folks listed under "Watchers" [1] on either project pages?
So for now, please do not archive it. Thanks!
I would like to archive that project soon, given my comment above. Furthermore, that project has been entirely unused (maybe because nobody has ever heard of that project...).
If I imagined every project to have a corresponding maybe-project, we'd just create unneeded abstraction layers. Newly created tasks should receive triage. One triage steps is defining if the task is associated to the right project(s). No "maybe" needed.
Cheers, andre
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Receiving_updates_and_notifi...
Sounds to me like the nuance we were trying to go for is causing confusion. This is unintended and my opinion is that we should remove maybe-analytics and just tell everyone to use blocked-on-analytics as liberally as they wish.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, 2015-04-17 at 18:15 -0700, Grace Gellerman wrote:
The project is intended for Analytics customers to alert Analytics of work in their products that they think might intersect with ours. It's a way of giving Analytics an early heads-up so that Analytics can either say,"Thanks for the early warning!" or "Thanks, but this does not touch Analytics."
We can remind participants at Scrum-of-Scrums that they can use this project.
Isn't that pretty much what https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/blocked-on-analytics/ is for? Both projects should receive urgent triage anyway (and hence a decision whether a task is actually Analytics territory or not), but I see zero folks listed under "Watchers" [1] on either project pages?
So for now, please do not archive it. Thanks!
I would like to archive that project soon, given my comment above. Furthermore, that project has been entirely unused (maybe because nobody has ever heard of that project...).
If I imagined every project to have a corresponding maybe-project, we'd just create unneeded abstraction layers. Newly created tasks should receive triage. One triage steps is defining if the task is associated to the right project(s). No "maybe" needed.
Cheers, andre
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Receiving_updates_and_notifi... -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
+1 to Dan
On Monday, April 27, 2015, Dan Andreescu dandreescu@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sounds to me like the nuance we were trying to go for is causing
confusion. This is unintended and my opinion is that we should remove maybe-analytics and just tell everyone to use blocked-on-analytics as liberally as they wish.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Fri, 2015-04-17 at 18:15 -0700, Grace Gellerman wrote:
The project is intended for Analytics customers to alert Analytics of work in their products that they think might intersect with ours. It's a way of giving Analytics an early heads-up so that Analytics can either say,"Thanks for the early warning!" or "Thanks, but this does not touch Analytics."
We can remind participants at Scrum-of-Scrums that they can use this project.
Isn't that pretty much what https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/blocked-on-analytics/ is for? Both projects should receive urgent triage anyway (and hence a decision whether a task is actually Analytics territory or not), but I see zero folks listed under "Watchers" [1] on either project pages?
So for now, please do not archive it. Thanks!
I would like to archive that project soon, given my comment above. Furthermore, that project has been entirely unused (maybe because nobody has ever heard of that project...).
If I imagined every project to have a corresponding maybe-project, we'd just create unneeded abstraction layers. Newly created tasks should receive triage. One triage steps is defining if the task is associated to the right project(s). No "maybe" needed.
Cheers, andre
[1]
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Receiving_updates_and_notifi...
-- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 11:28 -0700, Dan Andreescu wrote:
Sounds to me like the nuance we were trying to go for is causing confusion. This is unintended and my opinion is that we should remove maybe-analytics and just tell everyone to use blocked-on -analytics as liberally as they wish.
I have now archived the "Maybe Analytics" project in Phabricator.
Thanks, andre