>Also keeping two systems active could lead to requests going into two places 

Yes, this will certainly happen.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Grace Gellerman <ggellerman@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Should we talk more about this in our Research staff meeting on Tuesday?

I agree that we need to figure out prioritization process first.  Also keeping two systems active could lead to requests going into two places which could affect the workflow of prioritization.

I see the advantages to using Phab, but haste can sometimes, ya know, make waste.  So let's talk about this more...

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Toby Negrin <tnegrin@wikimedia.org> wrote:

To be clear - I do not want to move to Fabricator without reviewing our prioritization process. 

Shall we make this a Q3 goal since people seem really into it?

On Dec 15, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Leila Zia <leila@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Hi Oliver,

   I'd like to give Phabricator a try. I suggest the following steps if we decide to do it:

1. We block a 15-min team time in December during which R&D will play with Phabricator in https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/ If we all feel reasonably comfortable, then,
2. We switch to Phabricator in January, at the beginning of Q3, and we aim to try it for one quarter [1]. If it works, great, if not,
3. We go back to Trello.

Leila

[1] During the quarter, we keep Trello but we don't update it. If we figure out some time during the quarter that we can't work with Phabricator at all, we switch back to Trello and all we need to do is to add Q3's tasks back to it.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Dan Andreescu <dandreescu@wikimedia.org> wrote:

So those are the reasons I have, off the top of my head. Other reasons? Counter-arguments? Post em here.

Agreed, Phabricator is a good tool, and great if it creates a single place where we manage our projects.

It's not all great though.  Trello has a much more refined notification system and much prettier interface.  Mingle has more powerful queries, Asana is more to the point, etc.  We've been over these and decided as an organization to move towards Phabricator, I'm certainly not trying to dig up old wounds.  I do want to say though: bring those positive experiences when you switch from a system you like.  Because Phabricator is open source and the Facebook team that maintains it has been super friendly and helpful to us during our migration.  If we criticize it constructively, Phabricator will only get better.

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