>I don't remember that being the outcome of our meeting. I don't even have access to stat1002, much less vanadium. I only >have access to stat1003. I'll try asking for access to those servers as well, but ideally I would like for all the developers on my >team to have access to an EventLogging error log for the cluster.

Ok, Christian set me straight and seems like requesting access to vanadium was a suggestion to researchers only, I am not so sure how keen will ops be on that but that was the meeting outcome.

For developers such as yourself I have documented the current methods of access to EL logs in wikitech:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/EventLogging#Troubleshooting_events_coming_in_in_real_time

I understand that these are not ideal but I think they should be sufficient, at this time this is what we can offer you. If these methods of access are not sufficient please let us know and drive the work with Kevin.


On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>It seems a bit silly for me to ask for sudo just so I can occasionally look at some logs, but I'll go ahead and do that.
Much agree, it is unfortunate that is the state of affairs.

>I don't remember that being the outcome of our meeting. I don't even have access to stat1002, much less vanadium. I only >have access to stat1003. I'll try asking for access to those servers as well, but ideally I would like for all the developers on my >team to have access to an EventLogging error log for the cluster.

mmmm.. that is why I think we should always have meeting notes, if someone that was also on that meeting can chime in it will be great. I might be misremembering this.

Thank you,

Nuria






On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Ori Livneh <ori@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Kaldari: 

>Looks like I've lost permission to view those logs on Beta Labs again. Any chance you could fix them? 
I think it will be best for you to ask for sudo on the labs machine in question, which is what I did in order not to run into these issues, folks in the labs channel should be able to help you.

It seems a bit silly for me to ask for sudo just so I can occasionally look at some logs, but I'll go ahead and do that.

I agree that this does not make sense. Can you describe what would be ideal, from your perspective? How would you like to access this information?

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