>Browser bias: I was under the impression that Nav timing was only 
> available for modern browsers, so that might affect a bit of a bias into the situation.

It is well supported for IE >8 . The notable exception are iOS devices.
http://caniuse.com/#search=navigation
For details: http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webperformance/basics/


>Browser cache: Browser cache is going to reduce any gains we might see due to reduced 
>latency or increased bandwidth.  It would be nice if we could compare the 
>speed changes of cached/non-cached page/asset loading.  

Actually this is not an issue if you can assume cache hits/misses are the same before and after deploying ulsfo. What you care about in this case are the network times more than anything, as Faidon's changes do not affect the rendering of the page once all assets are downloaded. Now, if his changes also have the effect to clear cache, then we need to compare a data before his changes to data after his changes once caches have warmed up.


If there is an impact for network times should be "measurable" via transport times (they should be lower). If these smaller transport times have an effect on user experience (which is an entirely different matter) should be measurable via DOMContentReady (should be faster). Whether there is a real impact might get muddled as time passes and new features are deployed that affect number of assets on the page and rendering times.
I would analyze desktop and mobile data separately.

Nuria





On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Aaron Halfaker <ahalfaker@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I've created a card in trello to help us track this request.  https://trello.com/c/dNODZnr0/108-measuring-ulsfo-s-impact-on-site-performance


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Aaron Halfaker <ahalfaker@wikimedia.org> wrote:
The schema contains "originCountry" that should enable us to filter in this way.  

I have two points:

Browser bias: I was under the impression that Nav timing was only available for modern browsers, so that might affect a bit of a bias into the situation.  

Browser cache: Browser cache is going to reduce any gains we might see due to reduced latency or increased bandwidth.  It would be nice if we could compare the speed changes of cached/non-cached page/asset loading.  I don't think that the current schema will allow us to do this.   Despite this, we should still be able to get a good sense for how cached/non-cached page loads were affected in general.

-Aaron


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Dan Andreescu <dandreescu@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I was wondering if you have an easy way to measure and plot the impact
in page load time, perhaps using Navigation Timing data?

+10^9. I was rather excited to see ulsfo back up and I tried to quickly figure some correlation out of https://gdash.wikimedia.org/dashboards/frontend/ , but I failed.
I think what's needed here is mostly some brilliant idea on how to visualise / graph the data available there by region (and maybe also by project / kind of editor e.g. unregistered vs. registered vs. sysop) without making thousands graphs for each of the combinations. Or just one graph for the region moved to ulsfo to start with of course. :)

Does the NavigationTiming data have the hostname of the varnish that served the request, and do we have data on which hostname served which geographic area at a particular time?

If so, we can generate a before and after average performance map by region served, to see if there are any differences.

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