Edo, 

>The nl-wiki has 300.000-350.000 hits on the main page per day. The rest of the top10 drops quickly down to 5000 hits per day, a reasonable amount.
>But the 1.500.000 unique visitors per day then seems overstated, when I do a rough estimate, it looks like 1.500.000 is the total number of page views, the number of unique >devices must be a lot smaller then.
Not sure where do your numbers come from but the number of pageviews on a random day of April for nl.wikipedia (adding desktop and mobile across the world) is about 5 million, discounting bots. No need to estimate, as we count every one of them. 

Here are some visuals: https://vital-signs-test.wmflabs.org/#projects=nlwiki/metrics=Pageviews

Maybe we are looking at a different project? I was searching for "dutch wikipedia" 






On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Marcel Ruiz Forns <mforns@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi Edo!
 
The nl-wiki has 300.000-350.000 hits on the main page per day. The rest of the top10 drops quickly down to 5000 hits per day, a reasonable amount. But the 1.500.000 unique visitors per day then seems overstated, when I do a rough estimate, it looks like 1.500.000 is the total number of page views, the number of unique devices must be a lot smaller then.

It does look like this, but if you sum all view counts for the top 993 most visited articles (https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/pageviews/top/nl.wikipedia.org/all-access/2016/02/01), it adds up to 1.203.816. Also, nl.wikipedia.org has more than 1 million articles, I think the rest of articles not mentioned in the top would raise that count far above the 1.500.000. We should also consider that the majority of wikipedia visitors do 1-article-only lookups. So, I think 1.635.478 of unique devices makes sense.

Cheers

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Edo de Roo <edoderoo@gmail.com> wrote:
Gergo Tisza makes a valid point.

The nl-wiki has 300.000-350.000 hits on the main page per day. The rest of the top10 drops quickly down to 5000 hits per day, a reasonable amount.
But the 1.500.000 unique visitors per day then seems overstated, when I do a rough estimate, it looks like 1.500.000 is the total number of page views, the number of unique devices must be a lot smaller then.


Edo de Roo
nl-wiki, wikidata

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:50 PM, <analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
Send Analytics mailing list submissions to
        analytics@lists.wikimedia.org

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
        https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
        analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org

You can reach the person managing the list at
        analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..."


Today's Topics:

   1. Unique Devices data available on API (Nuria Ruiz)
   2. Hive & Oozie downtime tomorrow (Andrew Otto)
   3. Re: Unique Devices data available on API (Gergo Tisza)
   4. Re: Unique Devices data available on API (Kevin Leduc)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:17:12 -0700
From: Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org>
To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who
        has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics."
        <analytics@lists.wikimedia.org>,  Wikimedia developers
        <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Analytics] Unique Devices data available on API
Message-ID:
        <CAMpYYkGngUfQOu-f6sL1TVTDbDUX_=MG9FXEqUV5xmZVZL3nqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hello!

The analytics team is happy to announce that the Unique Devices data is now
available to be queried programmatically via an API.

This means that getting the daily number of unique devices [1] for English
Wikipedia for the month of February 2016, for all sites (desktop and
mobile) is as easy as launching this query:

https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/en.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160229

You can get started by taking a look at our docs:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Unique_Devices#Quick_Start

If you are not familiar with the Unique Devices data the main thing you
need to know is that
is a good proxy metric to measure Unique Users, more info below.

Since 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation used comScore to report data about
unique web visitors.  In January 2016, however, we decided to stop
reporting comScore numbers [2] because of certain limitations in the
methodology, these limitations translated into misreported mobile usage. We
are now ready to replace comscore numbers with the Unique Devices Dataset .
While unique devices does not equal unique visitors, it is a good proxy for
that metric, meaning that a major increase in the number of unique devices
is likely to come from an increase in distinct users. We understand that
counting uniques raises fairly big privacy concerns and we use a very
private conscious way to count unique devices, it does not include any
cookie by which your browser history can be tracked [3].


[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices
[2] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComScore/Announcement
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices#How_do_we_count_unique_
devices.3F
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/attachments/20160419/5cf1283f/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 16:05:50 -0400
From: Andrew Otto <otto@wikimedia.org>
To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who
        has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics."
        <analytics@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Analytics] Hive & Oozie downtime tomorrow
Message-ID:
        <CAO8=cz0e5BfXwGz0q7joniMHrOK6vwSRLrTOMddtcQCrKyEzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi all!

As part of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130840, we need to schedule a
short downtime for Hive and Oozie.  I would like to proceed with this
tomorrow if there are no objections.

I’d like to schedule this downtime for an hour starting at 14:45 UTC (10:45
EST, 07:45 PST) Wednesday April 20th.  The downtime will likely be less
than an hour, but I’m blocking out an hour just in case.

Sorry for the short notice!  If this is going to cause anyone trouble let
us know and we will reschedule with more notice.

Thanks all!
-Andrew
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/attachments/20160419/8132606c/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 22:54:13 +0200
From: Gergo Tisza <gtisza@wikimedia.org>
To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who
        has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics."
        <analytics@lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, Research
        into Wikimedia content and communities
        <wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Analytics] Unique Devices data available on API
Message-ID:
        <CAEVcXn2cmQGcgdx_VMGux0kXefrON8wQOAbx3nCdj8m2-2Pvyw@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Very interesting, thank you!

Do you have any estimate of how much this overcounts? I checked the monthly
uniques for huwiki
<https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/hu.wikipedia.org/all-sites/monthly/20160301/20160331>,
and it's about 5.8 million, which is a bit higher than the total number of
internet users in Hungary (estimated to 5.2 million). This Gemius analyis
<http://www.gemius.com/all-reader-news/is-wikipedia-still-popular.html> from
a year ago claims a 30% reach for Wikipedia, which would be about 1.5
million. They use a software panel (a demographically representative group
of volunteers who installed tracking software) so they might be inaccurate
(and they only count traffic originating from Hungary I think) but probably
not by a factor of four.


On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> The analytics team is happy to announce that the Unique Devices data is
> now available to be queried programmatically via an API.
>
> This means that getting the daily number of unique devices [1] for English
> Wikipedia for the month of February 2016, for all sites (desktop and
> mobile) is as easy as launching this query:
>
>
> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/en.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160229
>
> You can get started by taking a look at our docs:
> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Unique_Devices#Quick_Start
>
> If you are not familiar with the Unique Devices data the main thing you
> need to know is that
> is a good proxy metric to measure Unique Users, more info below.
>
> Since 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation used comScore to report data about
> unique web visitors.  In January 2016, however, we decided to stop
> reporting comScore numbers [2] because of certain limitations in the
> methodology, these limitations translated into misreported mobile usage. We
> are now ready to replace comscore numbers with the Unique Devices Dataset .
> While unique devices does not equal unique visitors, it is a good proxy for
> that metric, meaning that a major increase in the number of unique devices
> is likely to come from an increase in distinct users. We understand that
> counting uniques raises fairly big privacy concerns and we use a very
> private conscious way to count unique devices, it does not include any
> cookie by which your browser history can be tracked [3].
>
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices
> [2] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComScore/Announcement
> [3]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices#How_do_we_count_unique_
> devices.3F
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Analytics mailing list
> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/attachments/20160419/9b7d4a38/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 14:50:09 -0700
From: Kevin Leduc <kevin@wikimedia.org>
To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who
        has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics."
        <analytics@lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>,
        wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Analytics] Unique Devices data available on API
Message-ID:
        <CAOZyTV0PsrekgGSOd0P=Qm0G6N_Gmsk3F8Of=4BQpBKH0sjnBA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Here's another useful link to a form that helps you construct the API call:
https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/?doc#!/Unique_devices_data/get_metrics_unique_devices_project_access_site_granularity_start_end


On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> The analytics team is happy to announce that the Unique Devices data is
> now available to be queried programmatically via an API.
>
> This means that getting the daily number of unique devices [1] for English
> Wikipedia for the month of February 2016, for all sites (desktop and
> mobile) is as easy as launching this query:
>
>
> https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/unique-devices/en.wikipedia.org/all-sites/daily/20160201/20160229
>
> You can get started by taking a look at our docs:
> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Unique_Devices#Quick_Start
>
> If you are not familiar with the Unique Devices data the main thing you
> need to know is that
> is a good proxy metric to measure Unique Users, more info below.
>
> Since 2009, the Wikimedia Foundation used comScore to report data about
> unique web visitors.  In January 2016, however, we decided to stop
> reporting comScore numbers [2] because of certain limitations in the
> methodology, these limitations translated into misreported mobile usage. We
> are now ready to replace comscore numbers with the Unique Devices Dataset .
> While unique devices does not equal unique visitors, it is a good proxy for
> that metric, meaning that a major increase in the number of unique devices
> is likely to come from an increase in distinct users. We understand that
> counting uniques raises fairly big privacy concerns and we use a very
> private conscious way to count unique devices, it does not include any
> cookie by which your browser history can be tracked [3].
>
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices
> [2] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComScore/Announcement
> [3]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Unique_Devices#How_do_we_count_unique_
> devices.3F
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Analytics mailing list
> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/attachments/20160419/9bdf5c4f/attachment.html>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Analytics mailing list
Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics


------------------------------

End of Analytics Digest, Vol 50, Issue 21
*****************************************



--
[I don't print e-mails. Do you?]
http://gplus.to/edoderoo _-=-_ edoderoo.nl

_______________________________________________
Analytics mailing list
Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics




--
Marcel Ruiz Forns
Analytics Developer
Wikimedia Foundation

_______________________________________________
Analytics mailing list
Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics