>It was explained as one that changes it a lot. Maybe there was a wrong explanation.

Sorry, not sure what you mean, can you link to any documentation we can maybe clarify? As the measure two metrics "Unique Devices" and "Pageviews" is completely different.

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:05 AM, יגאל חיטרון <khitron@post.bgu.ac.il> wrote:
It was explained as one that changes it a lot. Maybe there was a wrong
explanation.
Igal

2017-07-17 20:52 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org>:

> >I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> That had no effect on pageviews. I think you are probably mixing two
> different projects.
>
>
> As I mentioned pageview counting has not changed for more than 2 years.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Nuria
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:43 AM, יגאל חיטרון <khitron@post.bgu.ac.il>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi. I do not remember when did this happen - this april or two years ago.
> > I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> > Igal
> >
> >
> > 2017-07-17 19:37 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org>:
> >
> > > > do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way
> for
> > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile
> web
> > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > >
> > > mmmm... not sure what you are referring to, can you be more specific?
> We
> > > have not changed the way we measure pageviews for 2 years
> > >
> > > There are improvements/fixes continously done to the system and those
> get
> > > documented here:
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view#Change_log
> > >
> > >
> > > FYI, we have opened a ticket for this issue:
> > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170845
> > >
> > > Without looking at it in detail there are many possible causes: removal
> > of
> > > "bad" pageviews (like requests for banners) or drop of traffic due to
> > > having less bots.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Strainu <strainu10@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון <khitron@gmail.com>:
> > > > > Hello, Strainu.
> > > > > 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll
> see,
> > > as I
> > > > > expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized
> appears
> > in
> > > > > "mobile-web" mostly.
> > > > > 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the
> > way
> > > > for
> > > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile
> > web
> > > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
> > > > announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
> > > >
> > > > Strainu
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu" <strainu10@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a
> > significant
> > > > >> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April this
> > > > >> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to justify
> > > > >> this drop?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Pagina_principal%C4%83
> > > > >>
> > > > >> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Kezd%C5%91lap
> > > > >>
> > > > >> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
> > > > >>
> > > > >> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
> > > > >>
> > > > >> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
> > > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Main_Page
> > > > >> (slightly different pattern)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance uk.wiki:
> > > > >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.
> > > > wikipedia.org&platform=all-
> > > > >> access&agent=user&start=2016-01&end=2017-06&pages=%D0%93%
> > > > >> D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%
> > > > >> 80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >>    Strainu
> > > > >>
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