On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Dan Andreescu <dandreescu@wikimedia.org> wrote:


After reading through the thread, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and say simply that there was a misunderstanding here. There are a lot of deeply problematic issues with wikimetrics, but the idea that we'd try to stop this "feature" is nuts - pretending that it solves anything would be a distraction from the actual, more serious problems that legal has identified. There are enough things to blame us for already; please don't add more we're not responsible for. :)

I sincerely apologize if what I said sounded like blame.  I did not intend to blame anyone, but I was careless with my language and lack of research into past notes and discussions.  What I should have said is:

If this is not a concern for legal or anyone else, I can easily show usernames instead of user ids.  Just let me know and it'll be done in a few minutes.

Please accept my apologies Luis, I personally do not find legal issues an inconvenience by any stretch of imagination.  This is why it's troubling to hear you say "There are a lot of deeply problematic issues with wikimetrics".  I was under a completely different impression so I'd like to resolve any issues with top priority.  If you've already communicated these to Diederik and/or Toby, I'll find out from them.  Otherwise, please let us know as soon as you can.

No apology necessary, Dan; if anything, I should be apologizing to you for being quick on the trigger last night. I do appreciate the effort everyone has been making to make User Metrics as privacy-sensitive as possible, given difficult design constraints and feature requests :)

Definitely think it is fine to add this feature.

Luis


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