I guess it's tough to draw a baseline considering we only have a couple
months worth of data - but perhaps a good metric for our goal is returning
to or exceeding our peak?
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Kenan Wang <kwang(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Thanks to Juliusz we now have a graph of mobile editors that became
active editors. We can see a drop in the number of editors that became
active:
http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/edits-monthly-5plus-editors
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Kenan Wang <kwang(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Well, looks like IndiaSummer95 got blocked today... but I've reached out
> to Nick1372 and KurtWags3 via their user talk pages.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> I hope this is not too stalker-y but I think it is interesting.
>>
>> I looked briefly at the top 5 editors for both August [A] and
>> September [B], the most prolific editor "Indiasummer95", 520 days
>> registered, [1] made 2908 edits in August but only 694 in September.
>> The second most profilic editor "La Avatar Korra", registered for 88
>> days [2] in September made 954 edits in August but only 379 in
>> September. Number 3, Nick1372, member for 306d days [3] had 762 edits
>> in August but only 445 in September, #4 was 이민혁, registered for 70
>> days, [4] (558 rising to 623), and #5 KurtWags3, registered for 84
>> days [5] (520 dropping to 102)
>>
>> Out of these Indiasummer95 was the most interesting so I looked at the
>> edits per page for August [C]:
>> Tell_Mama_UK 66
>> Abel_Xavier 60
>> Melilla 56
>> Vitória_S.C. 44
>> History_of_Roman_Catholicism_in_Portugal 40
>> Knattspyrnufélag_Reykjavíkur 40
>> Robot_Wars_(TV_series) 38
>> F.C._Paços_de_Ferreira 32
>> Symbols_of_Portugal 32
>> Politics_of_Toledo_(Spain) 32
>>
>> The same in September [D]:
>> Alfonso_I_of_Asturias 21
>> Indiasummer95 13
>> Vitālijs_Astafjevs 12
>> A.C._Perugia_Calcio 10
>> Morangos_com_Açúcar 9
>> Azad_Ali 9
>> Million_Muslim_March 8
>> Islam_in_the_Czech_Republic 7
>> Szilárd_Németh 7
>> Matteo_Ferrari 6
>>
>> Inspecting closing on the dates of his/her edits to Tell_Mama_UK (page
>> id 39683645) [E]
>> 2013-08-11 4
>> 2013-08-15 56
>> 2013-08-16 6
>>
>> However if I look at the history page I don't see 56 edits from
>> him/her on that page (I count 36 total on the entire page):
>>
>>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tell_Mama_UK&action=history
>>
>> So.. that makes me wonder...
>> 1) was something broken around 15th August in EventLogging - were we
>> reporting successes that weren't and thus the data is skewed (e.g.
>> AbuseFilter related) ? Is there a logical explanation for this or is
>> something indeed weird - can anyone suggest a reason?
>> 2) Is this people getting used to the editor/wikitext - making lots of
>> mistakes early on and then getting better at using it?
>> 3) Is it indeed seasonal / people getting bored after initial
>> excitement of editing?
>>
>> [1]
>>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserProfile/Indiasummer95?mobileact…
>> [2]
>>
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserProfile/La%20Avatar%20Korra?mob…
>> [3]
>>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserProfile/Nick1372?mobileaction=b…
>> [4]
>>
https://ko.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/특수기능:UserProfile/이민혁?mobileaction=beta
>> [5]
>>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserProfile/KurtWags3?mobileaction=…
>>
>> [A] SELECT event_username, count(*) from MobileWebEditing_5644223
>> where event_action = 'success' and timestamp LIKE '201308%' group
by
>> event_username
>> [B] SELECT event_username, count(*) from MobileWebEditing_5644223
>> where event_action = 'success' and timestamp LIKE '201309%' group
by
>> event_username
>> [C] SELECT enwiki.page.page_title, count(*) from
>> MobileWebEditing_5644223 INNER JOIN enwiki.page on enwiki.page.page_id
>> = event_pageId where wiki = 'enwiki' and event_action = 'success'
and
>> event_userName = 'Indiasummer95' and timestamp LIKE '201308%'
group by
>> event_pageId
>> [D] SELECT enwiki.page.page_title, count(*) from
>> MobileWebEditing_5644223 INNER JOIN enwiki.page on enwiki.page.page_id
>> = event_pageId where wiki = 'enwiki' and event_action = 'success'
and
>> event_userName = 'Indiasummer95' and timestamp LIKE '201309%'
group by
>> event_pageId
>> [E] SELECT DATE(timestamp), count(*) from MobileWebEditing_5644223
>> where wiki = 'enwiki' and event_action = 'success' and
event_userName
>> = 'Indiasummer95' and timestamp LIKE '201308%' and event_pageId
=
>> 39683645 group by DATE(timestamp)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Kenan Wang <kwang(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> > I'll try to block out some time to look at creating those two graphs
>> > tomorrow. Let me know if you want to help.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Kenan Wang <kwang(a)wikimedia.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Adding Dario to this thread.
>> >>
>> >> So the main question is why is the number of edits going down from
>> >> august
>> >> to september while the number of unique editors is going up?
>> >>
>> >> Few theories:
>> >>
>> >> 1) Problem with data - seems unlikely per Jon's analysis. Also,
both
>> >> numbers come from the same data source.
>> >>
>> >> 2) Change in the makeup of editors - not conclusive from the data
>> >> but it
>> >> seems that the number of edits from new editors and experienced
>> >> editors are
>> >> following the same general pattern.
>> >>
>> >> 3) Change in edits per session - no analysis done towards this yet.
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to take a look at:
>> >>
>> >> 1) a daily graph over the same two month period on unique daily
>> >> editors
>> >>
>> >> 2) a daily graph of edits per session over the same two month
>> >> period
>> >>
>> >> Few things to keep in mind:
>> >>
>> >> -It seems that there is not a seasonality difference in desktop
>> >> edits, but
>> >> as pointed out by Steven Walling it's not necessarily true that
>> >> desktop
>> >> edits and mobile edits will follow the same seasonality patterns.
>> >>
>> >> -Seasonality also wouldn't account for the skew between unique
>> >> editors and
>> >> raw edits.
>> >>
>> >> -This effect seems fairly centered on enwiki, however mobile captcha
>> >> support was introduced and may affect numbers for other projects in
>> >> some off
>> >> setting fashion
>> >>
>> >> -The spike in number of edits occurs roughly between Aug 12 - 30,
>> >> particularly 23-30. In that time section level editing was
>> >> introduced on
>> >> August 27.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Jon Robson
<jrobson(a)wikimedia.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If you look at my graphs this theory doesn't seem to hold....
>> >>>
>> >>> On 9 Oct 2013 12:24, "Tomasz Finc"
<tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Maryana Pinchuk
>> >>>> <mpinchuk(a)wikimedia.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > One theory: most of our enwiki power users tried mobile
editing
>> >>>> > early
>> >>>> > on and
>> >>>> > made their customarily high number of edits per session in
>> >>>> > August, but
>> >>>> > they
>> >>>> > weren't retained on mobile and didn't stick around
through
>> >>>> > September.
>> >>>> > Meanwhile, new users continue to flood in, but they only
make an
>> >>>> > edit
>> >>>> > or two
>> >>>> > and leave. If this is the case, it makes a strong argument
for
>> >>>> > working
>> >>>> > on
>> >>>> > things like mobile GettingStarted/KeepGoing to bump up
early
>> >>>> > engagement for
>> >>>> > newbies, and article histories/contrib views and other
power
>> >>>> > user
>> >>>> > features
>> >>>> > for oldbies :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This could be an interesting theory. Kenan, what do you think
>> >>>> about
>> >>>> reaching out to a handful of those editors that dropped and ask
>> >>>> them
>> >>>> why?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --tomasz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Kenan Wang
>> >> Product Manager, Mobile
>> >> Wikimedia Foundation
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > Product Manager, Mobile
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