Hi! Yes I already tested those two ways. I used the mediarequests api
(
https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/mediarequests/top/en.wikipedia.or…)
but since they are just the first 1000 the largest part is composed by icons, buttons ets.
While I’d like to focus on the images that illustrate an article.
I wrote a script to download all the dumps, open, sort and filter them to get a longer
list, but it’s very time consuming.
I used in the past articles popularity as proxy, but I was looking for a more granular
approach and considering the usage of images also across different linguistic versions
Best
Michele
From: Dan Andreescu <dandreescu(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Friday, 4 November 2022 at 15:17
To: Michele Mauri <michele.mauri(a)polimi.it>
Cc: A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has an interest in
Wikipedia and analytics. <analytics(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Analytics] Re: Mediacounts fields
I see. In practice, the mediaviewer instrumentation also had some inaccuracies. For
example, the code pre-fetched certain images when opening a gallery even if the viewer
never ended up looking at them. I think they adjusted the instrumentation to account for
that, but I don't remember the details.
One thought I had is, have you checked the mediarequests
API<https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/AQS/Mediarequests>? It's used
to power metrics like top media
requests<https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org/content/top-medi…
(per project per month). And you can query it
directly<https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/mediarequests/per-fil…
for specific images. It's backed by the same mediacounts data, so you're right,
it counts all transfers. But that's a pretty good proxy for what was seen by a user.
If you look at the top 1000 files requested I linked, you'll see a lot of icons and
flags at the top, which makes sense. But in between all that you'll see real images
like Liz Truss's portrait and Socrates and all that. You could filter to only larger
images by downloading the image and checking its size.
Or you can go another way and look at the top 1000
articles<https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org/reading/top-view…
on a wiki, find all their images, and analyze those.
Take a look around at the APIs and see if there's a way forward through that data (the
stats.wikimedia.org<http://stats.wikimedia.org> site queries the API directly on the
client-side, so if you open up your browser's developer tools you can discover the API
that way. You can of course also browse the dynamic
docs<https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/#/Mediarequests%20data> :))
On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 5:52 PM Michele Mauri
<michele.mauri@polimi.it<mailto:michele.mauri@polimi.it>> wrote:
Thanks. My goal is to understand which are the most viewed images on Commons through
Wikipedia. By reading the mediacount description, it is possible to get the number of
transfers. But if I got it well it counts all the images transferred to the user, making
difficult to understand which have been really “seen” by the user. Furthermore, it
provides all the interface images and icons, making difficult to filter only on the images
used to illustrate the article.
Focusing only on media viewer clicks seems was a possible solution for solving those
issues. If you have other suggestions, they are welcome!
Best
Michele
From: Dan Andreescu
<dandreescu@wikimedia.org<mailto:dandreescu@wikimedia.org>>
Date: Thursday, 3 November 2022 at 22:30
To: A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has an interest in
Wikipedia and analytics.
<analytics@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:analytics@lists.wikimedia.org>>
Cc: Michele Mauri <michele.mauri@polimi.it<mailto:michele.mauri@polimi.it>>
Subject: Re: [Analytics] Mediacounts fields
We don't have any public data on media viewer interactions specifically. We used to
have instrumentation on that feature but we haven't tracked it since last year. To
get access to some of the old sanitized data that was retained for research purposes,
you'd have to file a formal research proposal, and it doesn't seem likely to get
approved, but maybe tell us more about what you're trying to do?
What questions are you hoping to answer, maybe there's another way or another kind of
dataset that would serve more use cases?
On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:12 PM Michele Mauri via Analytics
<analytics@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:analytics@lists.wikimedia.org>> wrote:
Hello,
For an academic research, I'd like to see which are the most viewed images through the
"media viewer".
Do you know if it’s possible to get this information? I looked on the wikitech portal, but
I found just the mediacounts
(
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data_Lake/Traffic/Mediacounts) which is not
what I’m looking for.
Thank you
Michele
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