Building that is easy, you just need someone to
add these
functionalities to the templates and a bot to run it for the first time.
Any volunteers?
Best
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:37 PM Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Amir,
I think that I'm following better now.
The extension option doesn't sound workable for what I have in mind.
I'd like the score to be visible without needing to be logged in, which I
believe means that the feature can't be conditional on having access to
beta features.
The solution to click on a talk page link for an updated score sounds
more workable. It would be best if the score refreshed automatically every
time someone viewed the talk page for the purpose that I have in mind, but
I don't know what kind of performance penalty and computing resources that
would require. If either of those are nontrivial, then having a template on
the talk page that says something like "Score last refreshed on TIME DATE.
There have been X revisions since that time. Click here to update the
score" would be good for the use case that I have in mind.
Pine
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hey,
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 8:16 AM Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Amir,
>>
>> Thanks for waiting. As I understand it, we have these options for
>> making the ORES scores visible on article talk pages:
>>
>> 1. A gadget
>> 2. An addition to the ORES extension
>> 3. A bot
>>
>> Is that correct?
>>
> Yes
>
>>
>> WP:WPP refers to WikiProject Philosophy; did you man something else
>> or am I misunderstanding the abbreviation?
>>
>> My bad, I meant something like this:
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Physics
>
>> I'm thinking that a gadget might be a workable solution, but my
>> preference would be to have the score displayed on all article talk pages
>> automatically for everyone to see including readers who are not logged in.
>> A bot that posted scores to talk pages and updated the scores on a weekly
>> basis would be good for that purpose.
>>
>> Both are possible solutions but as for bots. Updating the score for
> all articles of a wikiproject (e.g. Wikiproject medicine has 35K articles)
> on weekly basis is not efficient. That bot needs to do 35K edits every week
> and it might make some people mad. We can have an initial release and
> update it on demand (like adding a link to the score in the template. If
> someone wants that score gets updated. Just clicks on the link and the bot
> update it)
>
>> I'm unclear on how an addition to the ORES extension would work; can
>> you explain further what that option would involve?
>>
> Adding it to the ores extension will make things much easier. You just
> need to enable it in your beta features and then in the talk page or
> action=info you will see the score. Implementing it is difficult due to
> storage issues for the database and we might need to get operations
> approval before continuing.
>
> Best
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pine
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Amir,
>>>
>>> Thanks for getting back to me. My mind is a little full at the
>>> moment, and I have some deadlines this week, so it may take me a little
>>> while to get back to you. But I'm flagging this conversation for follow
up,
>>> hopefully by the end of this week or early next week.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your patience,
>>> Pine
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>> ORES has "article quality" models for English, Russian and
French
>>>> Wikipedia. There is a very short introduction in ORES
>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Objective_Revision_Evaluation_Service#Article_quality_models>
>>>> description page.
>>>> But if I want to explain it my way. It'll give you a prediction of
>>>> class of the article (A, B, C, FA, GA, stub, start) for a given
revision.
>>>> For example for this revision
>>>>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alan_Turing&oldid=730400015> ORES
>>>> predicts
>>>>
<https://ores.wikimedia.org/v2/scores/enwiki/?models=wp10&revids=730400015>
>>>> that it's GA (which it is).
>>>> The biggest use case for now is that people produce reports of
>>>> articles needing re
>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service/Stories#Updating_WikiProject_Medicine_article_assessments>
>>>> assessment
>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service/Stories#Updating_WikiProject_Medicine_article_assessments>
for
>>>> wikiprojects
>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service/Stories#Updating_WikiProject_Medicine_article_assessments>.
>>>> The other use case is list of popular articles that ORES thinks
>>>> their quality is low
>>>>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DataflowBot/output/Popular_low_quality_articles_(id-2)>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> Your use case about ORES prediction is valid the second part is a
>>>> little bit complicated though. For the first part, we have either option
of
>>>> a gadget or adding it to the ORES extension. If it's very important
to let
>>>> everyone see the scores, we can write a bot to update reports weekly in
>>>> English Wikipedia for articles in a certain Wikiproject and we use these
>>>> data in the WPP templates. Which one do you think suits English
Wikipedia
>>>> better?
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:57 AM Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi artificial intelligence people,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there baseline ORES scores available for articles? If so,
I'm
>>>>> thinking that it would be interesting to have the option to add a
template
>>>>> to an article's talk page that shows its ORES score as well as
its ORES
>>>>> percentile rank on a particular wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pine
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