Dear Shola and others,
Thank you for resurrecting the idea of Wiki Indaba. Having seen the many significant and
exciting changes in the African Wiki-scape since we got together in Johannesburg in 2014,
I think it is far too important an event for the African community to let slide away.
My suggestion is this … if you find value in Wiki Indaba (and I know that you do), take
the initiative, “be bold”. Douglas has declared WMZA will not be moving forward with it at
this stage. It is now up to whoever is the most motivated (as Florence said) to take up
the baton.
If you are keen to host Wiki Indaba in your country, ask your WM UG colleagues if they
would like to go forward and host it. Talk to Habib about his experience with hosting
WikiArabia (
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_TN_User_Group/Wiki-Arabia-2015>).
Theresa can share the feedback forms from Wiki Indaba 2014 so you know what worked and
what didn’t.
Let the wider group know which UG is keen to host, and then put together a project plan
and grant proposal, and submit them. Be aware that there is a lot of planning and effort
involved, so make sure it is a team of you organising this and not just one or two people.
Remember to also have lots and lots of fun!!
Let us all know your plans!!
For those of you not working over the holiday season, have a very very happy festive
season!! Such an exciting 2016 to look forward to.
Warmest regards
Isla
On 16 Dec 2015, at 11:50 AM, Florence Devouard
<anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
Hello
I completely agree with Ola here.
I would like to bring my European perspective on the matter :)
About 10 years ago, we started having a regular annual Wikimedia meeting in Europe.
Most of those years, it has been hosted by Germany, though I also remember at least one
edition in Netherlands.
It happened because...
* Germany was the richest chapter
* Germany had more staff, so more logistical support
* Germany is pretty central, with good access from everywhere
* Germany is a rather low cost country compared to others
* Tolerant/Supportive to gays, vegetarian diet, watery beer but great night clubs and
music
* etc.
but all those reasons fade behind ONE big reason.
GERMAN CHAPTER WAS HIGHLY MOTIVATED TO DO IT
They just wanted to do it because they felt it was important.
Other countries were interested as well... wanted to do it... felt they had a duty to do
it... felt the country needed to turn... but they were not pro-active because they were
not HIGHLY motivated as Germans were.
So what did Germans do ?
Very simple... they were pro-active :)
They did not only talk, they acted.
They prepared a solid proposition, with location, hosting solutions, travel options,
program outline, budget.
Posted it on meta.
Requested feedback and support.
Some links of interest
*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_DE/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_DE/Wikimedia_Conference_2015>
*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference>
*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_meeting_2009
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_meeting_2009> (this is a link to the first
one organized in Germany)
*
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2010
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2010> (the same, in 2010. It
gives a good idea of what you could start with)
Cheers
Anthere
Le 16/12/15 08:11, Olaniyan Olushola a écrit :
Dear Douglas
I really appreciate your comment on the subject at hand. And to Felix, you are on point
on all your suggestions.
Douglas, mentioned 2 key issues in your submission:
1. Inability of the South African Chapter to host for now, due to short of resources.
2. The need for editors in Africa to be more active in their contributions by way of
editing and community activities.
This is my position:
Without any prejudice to the position of South African Chapter of WMF as the shining
light of Africa in WMF. However, we need to understand that Wikindaba though
conceptualized by South Africans but it's a project for all the Wikipedians community
in Africa. Therefore, if we believed that it's not dead yet. Therefore, another
country should take up the gauntlet of hosting the new edition . In doing this, we can
follow Felix suggestion by selecting one person per affiliate to form a committee that
will assist in planning and selection of a host nation.
Douglas, to confirm the growth of Wikimedia in Africa. As at the last Wikindaba, . If I
am not mistaken, we only have Tunisia as the only User Group and South Africa as the only
Chapter . But at the moment we have additional Three User Groups which include: Nigeria,
Ghana, Cotevoire.
Lastly, if collaboration among these groups is strengthen through a continental wide
activities. No doubt, more editors will be discovered subsequently our contributions will
soar to the sky. A very good example is wiki Loves Africa
Olaniyan Olushola
Team Lead, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria
The SOUL OF WIKINDABA is begging us for our revival
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
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Hi @Flo,
We will discuss about an activity during the staff meeting of our User
Group this saturday. So it's after this meeting we can share our project
about #Wikipedia15.
2015-12-15 14:25 GMT+00:00 Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org>
<mailto:anthere@anthere.org>:
> Hello
>
> No one answered that email :)
> I take it that no other plans have been organized for Wikipedia 15 beyond
> Tunisia, Ghana and maybe Nigeria ?
>
> Just checking ...
>
> Flo
>
> Le 08/12/15 22:28, Florence Devouard a écrit :
>
> Hello friends
>
> I just discussed with the WMF team in charge of communication related to
> Wikipedia 15 and I was wondering which events were organized/planned in
> Africa to celebrate Wikipedia 15.
>
> The central hub to discuss/organize Wikipedia 15 is here :
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15>
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15>
>
> I see two events recorded in Africa.
> One in Ghana, by Ghana user group, for a day ending with dinner :
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15/Events/Ghana
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15/Events/Ghana>
> One in Tunisia, by Tunisia user group, with a dinner celebrations
> (including WLM and WLA)
>
> I am aware of the grant request from Nigeria
>
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_Nigeria_User_Group/Wik…
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_Nigeria_User_Group/Wikipedia_at_15_Celebration_in_Nigeria>
>
> Are there other events foreseen ?
>
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>
> Quels évènements/célébrations sont-elles prévues en Afrique pour célébrer
> Wikipedia 15 le 15 janvier ?
>
>
> An
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