Thank you all for the incisive contributions on this project.
By all standard , the video was a master piece and i am so glad for those
areas pointed out by Isla especially with respect to licensing .More so, I
am sure no one would bath an eye lid for paying Anakle for doing not just
a good job but in a professional version.
On whether Mark Angel should have a page on Wikipedia or not. I think we
should look at the notability in two folds. Firstly the group and secondly
the individual personae involve I.e Emmauela and Denilson Igwe.
The two main characters have enjoyed multiple significant coverages in
Nigeria media but majority most of then are blog posting. However, if one
should compare their popularly against what is written about them. You will
definitely find a huge gap. Though , some of the talks about them could be
found on some reliable sources... I want to say Yes we can write about them
on Wikipedia.
Frankly speaking, the comedian are more popular on social media than any
other conventional platform where their jobs are mostly showcase.
Therefore, since social media are generally unreliable as per Wikipedia
policy. Hence, they might face a border notability.
As at last time I check the trend of the video on social media , the
trending was amazing.
Dropping my last words on this ...
I will like to say big THANK YOU to the Foundation for their focus on
Nigeria community by creating awareness about Wikipedia in Africa largest
nation.
Thank you Zach, and all the foundation staff for the awesome job.
... And for the Nigerian Team. I say kudos.
I rest my case.
Olushola Olaniyan
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From: Zachary McCune <zmccune(a)wikimedia.org>
To: Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
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WIKIPEDIA (Mark Angel Comedy) (Episode 128)
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Hi Isla -
You are indeed right: the Mark Angel Comedy crew has not published the
video with the correct license and attribution. We will reach out and ask
for that correction.
For any who are looking to download, use, or modify these 2 video skits,
they are available on Wikimedia Commons with the correct CC-BY-SA 4.0
license:
* "Emmanuella goes to school" -
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_-_Emmanuel
la_goes_to_school.webm
* "Things come together" with Peter Edochie -
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_-_Things_c
ome_together.webm
all the best,
- Zack
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
wrote:
Hey Zack,
Thanks for the clarity … that completely makes sense - I don’t think that
anyone has a problem with them being paid to do an excellent job (at
least,
I don’t) - I was just wondering about the licensing on
their release of
the
video. Perhaps you could ask them to change it, unless
it is not what they
agreed to? And if they are claiming the video, they should mention that
they were commissioned by the Wikimedia Foundation or whoever to do it.
That would tick all the attribution boxes, and keep with the licensing,
yes?
With regards to whether that makes them notable enough to have a Wikipedia
article, then that is for the Nigerian community to decide. But it should
be because they are notable in their own right, and not because they did a
Wikipedia video.
Thanks again
Isla
On 02 Oct 2017, at 6:31 PM, Zachary McCune <zmccune(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi everyone -
Asaf, cheers for adding me here.
If the question is "was Mark Angel Comedy paid to make this video" the
answer is yes. They took a heavily discounted fee to concept, produce,
act,
edit, and help distribute this video. This was managed
with our creative
production partner in Lagos, an agency called Anakle. The project history,
participants, and further details are collected on Meta-Wiki here
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers/Raising_Awareness_in_Nigeria>
.
Actor Peter Edochie, who appears in the other video skit was also
compensated for his work. Again, he selected a highly discounted fee.
Overall, the production team on this project was very grateful for both
Mark Angel Comedy and Peter Edochie taking this project on. They are often
asked to do product or brand endorsements and decline, because they feel
the products/services do not align with their interests or beliefs.
Wikimedia was different- they were very excited to be part of this
project,
and help advance access to knowledge.
Thanks,
- Zack
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org
wrote:
> Thanks Asaf!
>
> On 02 Oct 2017, at 9:53 AM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> I am not sure whether or not Anne and Zach are on this list, so I'm CCing
> them explicitly so that they can shed light.
>
> A.
>
> On Oct 2, 2017 10:50, "Isla Haddow Flood" <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Am I missing something …? Is this not the video that the Wikimedia
>> Foundation created for visibility in Nigeria? It is great that it is
>> receiving some visibility … but the way it is presented here looks like
>> they made it (perhaps they were involved in the making - I can see that
>> Emmanuella is the actress, yes?).
>>
>> However, they have put forward this version as a standard YouTube
>> license and I imagine it was released under CC-BY-SA license as per
usual
…
>>
>> Perhaps the WMF should have a word ?
>>
>> On 01 Oct 2017, at 12:36 PM, alimi eyitayo <alimieyitayo(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1 wikiology
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2017 4:17 AM, "Isaac Olatunde"
<reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> Do you think this should be compensatory or they indeed meet our
>>> notability guidelines?. For example, if they meet the English Wikipedia
>>> notability guideline, someone with no conflict of interest who think
they
>>> are notable will probably write about them
there. This does not implies
>>> that you have a conflict of interest but I don't think this is
something
>>> you should start a thread about. They were
engaged by WMF to produce
the
>>> video and I think they were paid for their
services. Even if it was
done
>>> free of charge, they would merit a page on
Wikipedia only if they pass
the
notability
guideline. Feel free to write about them on any Wikipedia of
your choice if you are sure they meet the notability criteria.
Regards,
Isaac
On Oct 1, 2017 2:07 AM, "OneMore Daniel" <danencyclopedia(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Mark Angel and Emmanuella just contributed greatly to Wikimedia by
> sensitizing their 1.3 million plus fan base Wikipedia in an
> intelligently humorous way. It's something the Wikimedia community
> would love to see. They had deserved a page so long ago!
>
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEA0D3HYHYY
> Enjoy (and share!)
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