Dear Colleagues,
Apologies for my epistles Dear Asaf, Thank you for your points and for the links.
Kindly note that you quoted my mail out of context by saying that I am being alienated and de motivatedbecause I didn't receive scholarship. It's not about "Olaniyan" butabout the gross denial of many groups in Africa, the opportunity of exposure tonew knowledge and information that Wikimania offer to share. Just likeyou and I know that, Wikimedia is about community development and no communitycan develop without an effective execution of projects. Now tell me, if youchose just 4 applicants in Africa, how do you want other communities that werenot represented to learn from the products/outcomes of the event?. Also, if youbelieved that Wikimedia is about free sharing of knowledge and information, howcan communities and individual from the alienated groups share their projectwith the larger community of Wikimedians? I want us to read anddigest an extract from Wikimania mailing list on some of the questions raised onissues relating to the selection of applicants for wikimania scholarship below:
"Olatunde raises a significantissue in that call for communities to participate in the community village isdemoralising if communities dont have the opportunity to attend the event whichis suppose to be bringing everyone together. We have the underlyingprinciple of sharing the sum of all knowledge, if we dont do it internally thenwe cant do it successfully externally.
As for the response the process for Wikimania has been changed, in Mexico lastyear a decision was taken with many communities unaware and excluded from thediscussion because they didnt have anyone there. With Wikmania being every 2years its becomes more significant that all communities have representativesattend every wikimania otherwise it ends up isolating communities for 4 yearsfrom the whole of the movement. The scholarship process is alsobroken and its needs to be discussed it needs to be reconsidered to allow forthe changes” Submitted by Gnangarra.
It seems some of us are comfortable with our minority role in the movement…and if we continue this way, I wonder what would be the future of the movementin the continent. Great thanks to Isla and Florence and others for their roleson the continent, by providing direction through the introduction of sustainable platform for collaborationand sharing of knowledge among the various communities in Africa. Even withthis on hand, we still need a larger forum where all the communities andvolunteers who align with our movement can come together to express themselves yearin year out. Now that no one knows the fate of Wikiindaba and Wikimaniais out of reach. What next? Submitted. Olaniyan Olushola Director, WUGN Treasurer, FOSSFA MD, Olbims Consulting Phone: +2348154876844 Email: olaniyanshola15@gmail.com Email: olaniyanshola@yahoo.com Email:treasurer@fossfa.net User page: Olaniyan Olushola Facebook: Olaniyan Shola Twitter :Olaniyan73
Le 13/03/16 00:40, shola ishola a écrit :
Dear Colleagues,
Apologies for my epistles Dear Asaf,
Thank you for your points and for the links.
Kindly note that you quoted my mail out of context by saying that *I am being alienated and de motivated because I didn't receive scholarship*. It's not about "Olaniyan" but about the gross denial of many groups in Africa, the opportunity of exposure to new knowledge and information that Wikimania offer to share. Just like you and I know that, Wikimedia is about community development and no community can develop without an effective execution of projects. Now tell me, if you chose just 4 applicants in Africa, how do you want other communities that were not represented to learn from the products/outcomes of the event?. Also, if you believed that Wikimedia is about free sharing of knowledge and information, how can communities and individual from the alienated groups share their project with the larger community of Wikimedians?
I want us to read and digest an extract from Wikimania mailing list on some of the questions raised on issues relating to the selection of applicants for wikimania scholarship below:
*"Olatunde raises a significant issue in that call for communities to participate in the community village is demoralising if communities dont have the opportunity to attend the event which is suppose to be bringing everyone together. We have the underlying principle of sharing the sum of all knowledge, if we dont do it internally then we cant do it successfully externally.
As for the response the process for Wikimania has been changed, in Mexico last year a decision was taken with many communities unaware and excluded from the discussion because they didnt have anyone there. With Wikmania being every 2 years its becomes more significant that all communities have representatives attend every wikimania otherwise it ends up isolating communities for 4 years from the whole of the movement. The scholarship process is also broken and its needs to be discussed it needs to be reconsidered to allow for the changes” Submitted by Gnangarra.
It seems some of us are comfortable with our minority role in the movement… and if we continue this way, I wonder what would be the future of the movement in the continent.
Great thanks to Isla and Florence and others for their roles on the continent, by providing direction through the introduction of sustainable platform for collaboration and sharing of knowledge among the various communities in Africa. Even with this on hand, we still need a larger forum where all the communities and volunteers who align with our movement can come together to express themselves year in year out.
Now that no one knows the fate of Wikiindaba and Wikimania is out of reach. What next?
Submitted. Olaniyan Olushola Director, WUGN Treasurer, FOSSFA MD, Olbims Consulting Phone: +2348154876844 Email: olaniyanshola15@gmail.com mailto:olaniyanshola15@gmail.com Email: olaniyanshola@yahoo.com mailto:olaniyanshola@yahoo.com Email:treasurer@fossfa.net mailto:Email%3Atreasurer@fossfa.net User page: Olaniyan Olushola Facebook: Olaniyan Shola Twitter :Olaniyan73
No one knows the fate of Wikiindaba ???
The fate of WikiIndaba is in your hands. Our hands.
It needs a place. It needs a program. It needs a budget. And it needs a PEG grant to be asked for before the end of May. It is quite a bit of work. But that is perfectly feasible.
Flo/
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Only before May? The new grants system is rigged in a way we might have to move heaven and earth to get approval?
Unless there's a reason I don't know, perhaps it doesn't need to be before May, but can be applied anytime this year, if only the plan is to do the event next year. On 13 Mar 2016 12:41 am, "Florence Devouard" anthere@anthere.org wrote:
Le 13/03/16 00:40, shola ishola a écrit :
Dear Colleagues,
Apologies for my epistles Dear Asaf,
Thank you for your points and for the links.
Kindly note that you quoted my mail out of context by saying that *I am being alienated and de motivated because I didn't receive scholarship*. It's not about "Olaniyan" but about the gross denial of many groups in Africa, the opportunity of exposure to new knowledge and information that Wikimania offer to share. Just like you and I know that, Wikimedia is about community development and no community can develop without an effective execution of projects. Now tell me, if you chose just 4 applicants in Africa, how do you want other communities that were not represented to learn from the products/outcomes of the event?. Also, if you believed that Wikimedia is about free sharing of knowledge and information, how can communities and individual from the alienated groups share their project with the larger community of Wikimedians?
I want us to read and digest an extract from Wikimania mailing list on some of the questions raised on issues relating to the selection of applicants for wikimania scholarship below:
*"Olatunde raises a significant issue in that call for communities to participate in the community village is demoralising if communities dont have the opportunity to attend the event which is suppose to be bringing everyone together. We have the underlying principle of sharing the sum of all knowledge, if we dont do it internally then we cant do it successfully externally. As for the response the process for Wikimania has been changed, in Mexico last year a decision was taken with many communities unaware and excluded from the discussion because they didnt have anyone there. With Wikmania being every 2 years its becomes more significant that all communities have representatives attend every wikimania otherwise it ends up isolating communities for 4 years from the whole of the movement. The scholarship process is also broken and its needs to be discussed it needs to be reconsidered to allow for the changes” Submitted by Gnangarra. * It seems some of us are comfortable with our minority role in the movement… and if we continue this way, I wonder what would be the future of the movement in the continent.
Great thanks to Isla and Florence and others for their roles on the continent, by providing direction through the introduction of sustainable platform for collaboration and sharing of knowledge among the various communities in Africa. Even with this on hand, we still need a larger forum where all the communities and volunteers who align with our movement can come together to express themselves year in year out.
Now that no one knows the fate of Wikiindaba and Wikimania is out of reach. What next?
Submitted.
Olaniyan Olushola Director, WUGN Treasurer, FOSSFA MD, Olbims Consulting Phone: +2348154876844 Email: olaniyanshola15@gmail.com Email: olaniyanshola@yahoo.com Email:treasurer@fossfa.net User page: Olaniyan Olushola Facebook: Olaniyan Shola Twitter :Olaniyan73
No one knows the fate of Wikiindaba ???
The fate of WikiIndaba is in your hands. Our hands.
It needs a place. It needs a program. It needs a budget. And it needs a PEG grant to be asked for before the end of May. It is quite a bit of work. But that is perfectly feasible.
Flo
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