Hello,It is good to have proper description of images or media how ever I want to ask if there is any prevellage given to the person who posted thY particular image or video to late rename it if it was wrongly labelled?RegardsAmuzujoe_______________________________________________On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 3:08 pm , <african-wikimedians-request@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:Send African-Wikimedians mailing list submissions to
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 08:47:35 +0200
From: Ingo Koll <ikoll@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] African-Wikimedians Digest, Vol 11,
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Hi, I logged in twice to ISA yesterday and today and tried to change the
language preference. Was told every time "Something Went Wrong! Isa
might be undergoing maintenance".
Is that functional?
Besides: I commend the attempt to clean up but in future we should not
have to clean up. I had proposed earlier that there is no point inviting
and accepting images which are not properly described and categorized.
Cheers Ingo - Kipala
Am 13.11.2019 um 04:49 schrieb
african-wikimedians-request@lists.wikimedia.org:
> t Play on ISA
> (Adjoa Linda Fletcher)
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From: WikiIndaba 2019 Nigeria <wikiindaba2019scholarship@gmail.com>
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Hello Ingo,
It would be counterproductive to not accept images that are not properly
described or categorized. Most participants of WLX (WLA, WLE, WLM) are new
people who probably does not understand the importance of proper
description and categorizations. Thus, if the organizers of WLA has come up
with ISA to solve some of these problems, I honestly think we can support
them as a community.
Regards
Isaac
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 6:43 AM Ingo Koll <ikoll@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi, I logged in twice to ISA yesterday and today and tried to change the
> language preference. Was told every time "Something Went Wrong! Isa might
> be undergoing maintenance".
>
> Is that functional?
>
> Besides: I commend the attempt to clean up but in future we should not
> have to clean up. I had proposed earlier that there is no point inviting
> and accepting images which are not properly described and categorized.
>
> Cheers Ingo - Kipala
>
>
> Am 13.11.2019 um 04:49 schrieb
> african-wikimedians-request@lists.wikimedia.org:
>
> t Play on ISA
> (Adjoa Linda Fletcher)
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 08:15:36 +0100
From: Isaac Olatunde <reachout2isaac@gmail.com>
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Hello Ingo,
It would be counterproductive to not accept images that are not properly
described or categorized. Most participants of WLX (WLA, WLE, WLM) are new
people who probably does not understand the importance of proper
description and categorizations. Thus, if the organizers of WLA has come up
with ISA to solve some of these problems, I honestly think we can support
them as a community.
Regards
Isaac
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 6:43 AM Ingo Koll <ikoll@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi, I logged in twice to ISA yesterday and today and tried to change the
> language preference. Was told every time "Something Went Wrong! Isa might
> be undergoing maintenance".
>
> Is that functional?
>
> Besides: I commend the attempt to clean up but in future we should not
> have to clean up. I had proposed earlier that there is no point inviting
> and accepting images which are not properly described and categorized.
>
> Cheers Ingo - Kipala
>
>
> Am 13.11.2019 um 04:49 schrieb
> african-wikimedians-request@lists.wikimedia.org:
>
> t Play on ISA
> (Adjoa Linda Fletcher)
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:07:28 +0200
From: Isla Haddow Flood <isla@wikiloveswomen.org>
To: Wikicology <reachout2isaac@gmail.com>, Mailing list for African
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Cc: Ingo Kipala <ikollgmx@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] African-Wikimedians Digest, Vol 11,
Issue 56
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Dear Ingo
Thank you for raising the issue about access - which language did you have a problem with? German, Swahili, other? I have raised the issue with the developer team but need a little bit more detail of what is wrong.
Further to your other comment. I get what you are saying (although ISA is not about 'cleaning up’ read more below). Isaac is right too … competitions like Wiki Loves Africa and Wiki Loves Earth are specifically designed to attract people into contributing to Wikipedia in an easy and fun way. The more barriers, the less fun, the fewer people, the fewer interesting and diverse pictures.
However, ‘cleaning up' was not the main reason for creating ISA. ISA was created to provide a fun way for participants to add information/ tags / descriptors that identifies the elements that makes up each image by linking it to existing WikiData statements (it was named the coolest multimedia tool at the recent WikiData Conference). No images on Commons could be ‘described’ in this way until the Structured Data on Commons (SDC) project started. ISA is one of the pilot projects for SDC that help to make images more useful as illustrations of articles, but also more easy to search for - and multilingual too. Although a lack of description or a correctly assigned category is a problem with Wiki Loves Africa, it is a problem across most competitions and even most uploads. It is not a problem that is confined to our project alone. Neither does ISA pretend to solve the issues around descriptions or categories (or the lack thereof).
Instead, humans can add a caption that reflects the cultural specifics in an image, or link elements within the image to wikidata statements. Different intent. Different result.
You can read more about Structured Data on Commons here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data>
And about ISA here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:ISA_Tool <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:ISA_Tool>
I hope this explains things a bit clearer. And I am sure that once you can get into ISA to play, you will also see the difference.
> On 13 Nov 2019, at 09:15, Isaac Olatunde <reachout2isaac@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Ingo,
>
> It would be counterproductive to not accept images that are not properly described or categorized. Most participants of WLX (WLA, WLE, WLM) are new people who probably does not understand the importance of proper description and categorizations. Thus, if the organizers of WLA has come up with ISA to solve some of these problems, I honestly think we can support them as a community.
>
> Regards
>
> Isaac
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 6:43 AM Ingo Koll <ikoll@gmx.de <mailto:ikoll@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi, I logged in twice to ISA yesterday and today and tried to change the language preference. Was told every time "Something Went Wrong! Isa might be undergoing maintenance".
>
> Is that functional?
>
> Besides: I commend the attempt to clean up but in future we should not have to clean up. I had proposed earlier that there is no point inviting and accepting images which are not properly described and categorized.
>
> Cheers Ingo - Kipala
>
>
>
> Am 13.11.2019 um 04:49 schrieb african-wikimedians-request@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:african-wikimedians-request@lists.wikimedia.org>:
>> t Play on ISA
>> (Adjoa Linda Fletcher)
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