Hey Zack, 

Thanks for the clarity … that completely makes sense - I don’t think that anyone has a problem with them being paid to do an excellent job (at least, I don’t) - I was just wondering about the licensing on their release of the video. Perhaps you could ask them to change it, unless it is not what they agreed to? And if they are claiming the video, they should mention that they were commissioned by the Wikimedia Foundation or whoever to do it. That would tick all the attribution boxes, and keep with the licensing, yes?

With regards to whether that makes them notable enough to have a Wikipedia article, then that is for the Nigerian community to decide. But it should be because they are notable in their own right, and not because they did a Wikipedia video. 

Thanks again
Isla

On 02 Oct 2017, at 6:31 PM, Zachary McCune <zmccune@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Hi everyone - 

Asaf, cheers for adding me here. 

If the question is "was Mark Angel Comedy paid to make this video" the answer is yes. They took a heavily discounted fee to concept, produce, act, edit, and help distribute this video. This was managed with our creative production partner in Lagos, an agency called Anakle. The project history, participants, and further details are collected on Meta-Wiki here

Actor Peter Edochie, who appears in the other video skit was also compensated for his work. Again, he selected a highly discounted fee. 

Overall, the production team on this project was very grateful for both Mark Angel Comedy and Peter Edochie taking this project on. They are often asked to do product or brand endorsements and decline, because they feel the products/services do not align with their interests or beliefs. Wikimedia was different- they were very excited to be part of this project, and help advance access to knowledge.  

Thanks, 

- Zack 





On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <isla@wikiloveswomen.org> wrote:
Thanks Asaf!

On 02 Oct 2017, at 9:53 AM, Asaf Bartov <abartov@wikimedia.org> wrote:

I am not sure whether or not Anne and Zach are on this list, so I'm CCing them explicitly so that they can shed light.

   A.

On Oct 2, 2017 10:50, "Isla Haddow Flood" <isla@wikiloveswomen.org> wrote:
Am I missing something …? Is this not the video that the Wikimedia Foundation created for visibility in Nigeria? It is great that it is receiving some visibility … but the way it is presented here looks like they made it (perhaps they were involved in the making - I can see that Emmanuella is the actress, yes?). 

However, they have put forward this version as a standard YouTube license and I imagine it was released under CC-BY-SA license as per usual …

Perhaps the WMF should have a word ?

On 01 Oct 2017, at 12:36 PM, alimi eyitayo <alimieyitayo@gmail.com> wrote:

+1 wikiology 

On Oct 1, 2017 4:17 AM, "Isaac Olatunde" <reachout2isaac@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Daniel, 

Do you think this should be compensatory or they indeed meet our notability guidelines?. For example, if they meet the English Wikipedia notability guideline, someone with no conflict of interest who think they are notable will probably write about them there. This does not implies that you have a conflict of interest but I don't think this is something you should start a thread about. They were engaged by WMF to produce the video and I think they were paid for their services. Even if it was done free of charge, they would merit a page on Wikipedia only if they pass the notability guideline. Feel free to write about them on any Wikipedia of your choice  if you are sure they meet the notability criteria. 

Regards, 

Isaac

On Oct 1, 2017 2:07 AM, "OneMore Daniel" <danencyclopedia@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark Angel and Emmanuella just contributed greatly to Wikimedia by
sensitizing their 1.3 million plus fan base Wikipedia in an
intelligently humorous way. It's something the Wikimedia community
would love to see. They had deserved a page so long ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEA0D3HYHYY
Enjoy (and share!)

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