Hey Zack,
Thanks for the clarity … that completely makes sense - I don’t think that anyone has a
problem with them being paid to do an excellent job (at least, I don’t) - I was just
wondering about the licensing on their release of the video. Perhaps you could ask them to
change it, unless it is not what they agreed to? And if they are claiming the video, they
should mention that they were commissioned by the Wikimedia Foundation or whoever to do
it. That would tick all the attribution boxes, and keep with the licensing, yes?
With regards to whether that makes them notable enough to have a Wikipedia article, then
that is for the Nigerian community to decide. But it should be because they are notable in
their own right, and not because they did a Wikipedia video.
Thanks again
Isla
On 02 Oct 2017, at 6:31 PM, Zachary McCune
<zmccune(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi everyone -
Asaf, cheers for adding me here.
If the question is "was Mark Angel Comedy paid to make this video" the answer
is yes. They took a heavily discounted fee to concept, produce, act, edit, and help
distribute this video. This was managed with our creative production partner in Lagos, an
agency called Anakle. The project history, participants, and further details are collected
on Meta-Wiki here
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers/Raising_Awareness_in_Nigeria>.
Actor Peter Edochie, who appears in the other video skit was also compensated for his
work. Again, he selected a highly discounted fee.
Overall, the production team on this project was very grateful for both Mark Angel Comedy
and Peter Edochie taking this project on. They are often asked to do product or brand
endorsements and decline, because they feel the products/services do not align with their
interests or beliefs. Wikimedia was different- they were very excited to be part of this
project, and help advance access to knowledge.
Thanks,
- Zack
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org
<mailto:isla@wikiloveswomen.org>> wrote:
Thanks Asaf!
On 02 Oct 2017, at 9:53 AM, Asaf Bartov
<abartov(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:abartov@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
I am not sure whether or not Anne and Zach are on this list, so I'm CCing them
explicitly so that they can shed light.
A.
On Oct 2, 2017 10:50, "Isla Haddow Flood" <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org
<mailto:isla@wikiloveswomen.org>> wrote:
Am I missing something …? Is this not the video that the Wikimedia Foundation created for
visibility in Nigeria? It is great that it is receiving some visibility … but the way it
is presented here looks like they made it (perhaps they were involved in the making - I
can see that Emmanuella is the actress, yes?).
However, they have put forward this version as a standard YouTube license and I imagine
it was released under CC-BY-SA license as per usual …
Perhaps the WMF should have a word ?
On 01 Oct 2017, at 12:36 PM, alimi eyitayo
<alimieyitayo(a)gmail.com <mailto:alimieyitayo@gmail.com>> wrote:
+1 wikiology
On Oct 1, 2017 4:17 AM, "Isaac Olatunde" <reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com
<mailto:reachout2isaac@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Daniel,
Do you think this should be compensatory or they indeed meet our notability guidelines?.
For example, if they meet the English Wikipedia notability guideline, someone with no
conflict of interest who think they are notable will probably write about them there. This
does not implies that you have a conflict of interest but I don't think this is
something you should start a thread about. They were engaged by WMF to produce the video
and I think they were paid for their services. Even if it was done free of charge, they
would merit a page on Wikipedia only if they pass the notability guideline. Feel free to
write about them on any Wikipedia of your choice if you are sure they meet the notability
criteria.
Regards,
Isaac
On Oct 1, 2017 2:07 AM, "OneMore Daniel" <danencyclopedia(a)gmail.com
<mailto:danencyclopedia@gmail.com>> wrote:
Mark Angel and Emmanuella just contributed greatly to Wikimedia by
sensitizing their 1.3 million plus fan base Wikipedia in an
intelligently humorous way. It's something the Wikimedia community
would love to see. They had deserved a page so long ago!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEA0D3HYHYY
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEA0D3HYHYY>
Enjoy (and share!)
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