Re: [African Wikimedians] Wizardman left you a message on Wikipedia

Before I could offer what meager help I can, I'd like to have the facts before us. Rex, it is a puzzling choice by you to evade the simple question of whether you, to your knowledge, violated copyright. It would help if you could offer an explanation. Cheers, A. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Gabriel Thullen &lt;gabriel(a)thullen.com&gt; wrote: > Yes, you are right about the criteria. > But... > The way I see things, certain rules should be open to interpretation. I > am suggesting that a clean start may be the best way to deal with this > situation, under the condition that our friend spends 6 months or so > learning the ropes. The criteria is intended to prevent edit war > specialists from creating new accounts as soon as their current one is > blocked. I really do not think that this is the case here. > > 24.130.172.5 was hounded by an IP (24.130.172.5) who started > contributing on Febuary 10th 2015 with a surprisingly good knowledge of how > Wikipedia works. I do not like that type of anonymous contributor at all. > If you know how to contribute, you use your account. Anyway, this IP did > declare ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noti… > ): > > > > > > *I definitely made the mistake of using the speedy deletion banner when > not 100% of the current article was copied. My analysis was that the > articles started with copyrighted content and therefore it would just be > better to restart with a clean slate. I won't make this assumption in the > future. Spearmind saw me concentrate on Ghana articles (as said that's > because I was reviewing article creations by Nkansahrexford who > concentrates on Ghana) and assumed that I was on a mission to delete > articles about Ghana. What I deplore is Spearmind's attitude on his talk > page. I tried to establish a dialog and asked him to use the talk pages > instead of just removing banners but he would not listen and became > aggressively defensive.Tonight I finished reviewing article creations by > Nkansahrexford and applied one additional copyviocore banner to Thomas > Mensah. A few other articles have copyvio issues but at a much smaller > scale and I decided to let it go. There were also a few copyvio issues from > the same user on Commons (see his talk page there).Thanks to everybody who > helped with this situation. 24.130.172.5 (talk) 06:32, 6 March 2015 (UTC) * > > If this IP knows so much, why does he/she not contribute under his/her > user name ? What is wrong with being User:Badzil if that is who he/she is ? > > But that is not the issue at hand. Apart from the fact that the admin > who did the blocking claims to have take a "*taking a long wikibreak > and will be back on Wikipedia at some point probably*" since mid-March > (he has done plenty of work since, including the edit block) what can we do > to help Nkansahrexford while he is being harassed by an experienced user > who prefers to contribute anonymously? > > Of course the best way could be negociation. Has anyone interceded on > his behalf? Has anybody helped him start negociating? > > Gabe > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Florence Devouard &lt;anthere(a)anthere.org > > wrote: > >> But the policy, in its introduction, states >> >> A clean start is not permitted if there are active bans, blocks or >> sanctions (including, but not limited to those listed here) in place >> against the old account. >> >> See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Clean_start#Criteria >> >> Sorry Gabe... but no. I stand by my position. First negociate, then >> restart (whether a fresh or not a fresh; but in all cases, in all >> transparency). >> >> Best >> >> Ant >> >> >> Le 03/04/15 00:16, Gabriel Thullen a écrit : >> >> I am terribly sorry that you feel shocked by my proposition. >> Please note that my proposal does correspond to "Wikipedia rules", I just >> tried to spell it out a bit. >> We are not talking about how to bypass Arbitration Committee >> sanctions, we are talking about an editor who has been blocked. >> The details can be found here: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Clean_start >> >> I really think that our friend should try to make a clean start, >> spend the time it takes to get a feel of how Wikipedia really works, and >> then these complicated issues we are facing right now will seem a lot >> simpler. >> >> Best regards >> Gabe >> >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Florence Devouard &lt;anthere(a)anthere.org >> > wrote: >> >>> Well... I am... shocked by this proposition. >>> >>> What you propose is plain and simple a way to go around a block. This >>> comes in opposition with Wikipedia rules. So you recommand to "not respect >>> the rules" ? Uh.... >>> >>> Ethically speaking, I think it is wrong as well as it is cheating and >>> a lack of respect for the community and its way of operating. >>> >>> Technically speaking, this is probably not possible as his IP is >>> likely to be blocked as well for new account creation. >>> >>> I think the ONLY way to deal with that is >>> 1) to pause and reflect on why that happened >>> 2) to talk with the one who blocked and to propose to be on probation >>> with a solid-established wikipedian to "review" additions and help deal >>> with these copyright issues >>> 3) to keep low profile and indeed to focus on small edits, small >>> improvements, categories => create a good track record. >>> >>> Anthere >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Douglas Scott < >>> douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> If we can address the cause of concern about the perceived copyright >>>> issues and address them then I think it should be quite simple to get it >>>> reverted. >>>> >>>> What are the copyright concerns that Wizardman has? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Douglas. >>>> >>>> On 1 April 2015 at 12:38, Florence Devouard &lt;anthere(a)anthere.org&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BlockList?wpTarget=Nkansahrexford&… >>>>> >>>>> No expiry date.... uh.... :-[ >>>>> >>>>> Le 31/03/15 22:27, Nkansah Rexford a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Eventually, I'm blocked from Wikipedia. >>>>> >>>>>