HI Flo
Thanks very much for getting back to me. I've added the country list and
the Commons category link.
I had thought about transferring this to a Wiki page, however I wanted to
explore the idea of an automated multilingual project page. I think this
approach has a couple of benefits over running it on a wiki page (I'm
sorry, I should have explained my thought process more clearly why I'm
trying this approach)
- Interwiki links are always blue, just like on Meta, meaning it
wouldn't be possible to see what has been created and what hasn't. This
list shows what is missing.
- This tool generates a list, I don't have to make it by hand.
- It takes a really long time to create a table and I am able to add new
languages to this tool in a minute.
- Tables aren't always the easiest things for people to edit to update
the result, this tool does it automatically.
I know that WMF are working on a translation project tool that would let us
run projects like this very easily, I've emailed to see how its getting on.
I will keep working on it :)
On 26 April 2016 at 22:50, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
Le 26/04/16 14:54, john cummings a écrit :
Hi all
hi John
I have met a few of you over Skype and in person before at Wikimedia
events, I'm currently working at UNESCO.
May 5th is African World Heritage Day and I was thinking about running a
small online campaign for it.
http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/
I have an idea and would like to know what you thought and how it could be
improved upon.
I think it is a great idea...
I would like to encourage editors in many languages to write Wikipedia and
Wikivoyage articles about the World Heritage sites in Africa through social
media and also on Wikipedia and Wikivoyage.
I want to make this as multilingual as possible so I've used dynamic
Wikidata Lists to create this table which shows which articles are
available in which language. I think its a really nice way to create a
project 'hit list' using Wikidata.
https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148
There are a few Wikidata items down the bottom of the list that are blank
or with very few articles, I need to fix this, they're duplicate items so
don't point to any articles or only one or two.
Great table
The one thing I am missing here to make it appealing is...
1) the name of the country where the site is located
2) whether there is at least an image of the site, or not. Ideally... link
to Commons category page IF it can be automated.
My personal suggestions are
1) that table should be transfered on a wiki page
2) that it be divided in two tables actually... one about wikipedia and
the other about wikivoyage
3) name of country added
4) organise it per country perhaps ?
5) for each article, we could add an indicator to show the general state
of it (without making it painful. Something fairly simple)
Whilst meta would be a cool place to coordinate that... the real effect is
ON the project itself (Wikipedia...) for a simple good reason... it is
exciting to see the blue links and the red links.
On meta... everything is blue... whether it exists or does not exist.
Some questions I'm currently thinking about:
- What languages should be included in the list? The languages I
currently have are the 6 UN languages + a few other popular languages but
this is easy to change.
am not sure
- What should be the aim of the campaign? E.g to create articles where
they don't exist in smaller Wikipedias.
well... I have a question. I see 137 items (and you say a few are
duplicates). Do those are the entirety of WH sites ? (= is there at least
one article in one language for each site; or are some sites missing ? If
some are missing... how many sites are missing ? )
If ALL sites are listed here... make it a call for translation (and
improvement if people feel like it)
If SOME sites are missing... make it a call to make sure that ALL sites
have at least one article in a language
Make it a 2-4 weeks effort.
- Should I include both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia or just stick to
Wikipedia, or should I split into two tables?
both. Two tables
- Is the tool easy enough for experienced editors to use to find where
articles don't exist yet? Its a shame they can't click on a button where
the gap is to just write or translate the article.
Not simple enough. Should be a wiki table with links to explain rules and
translation tool etc.
- Does anyone want to work with me on this?
I love it. Not sure how much time I will have to dedicate to it though. On
the 5th, unless it is cancelled, I will be travelling (somewhere in
Marocco). But I can help a bit I am sure.
- Where and how should we encourage people to take part
On social media, we have plenty of accounts to relay this (usergroups,
wikilovesafrica, wikiafrica etc.). Project pages could be created on local
wikipedias.... we can quite easily do it in French and English. But need to
find local relays for other languages (if no local relay... use meta at
least to have a global page and tables). Can get Wikimedia Foundation to do
a blog (ask Ed). Then village pumps. Some mouvements can help relay as
well, such as WikiFranca.
- Does this need a homepage or can it simply be a tweet that can be
translated? This would allow it to be shared in many languages easily.
Depends how much time you can dedicate to this. But the idea seems cool
enough to do more than a tweet.
All thoughts welcome
Flo
Thanks
John
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