Yes, you are right about the criteria.
The way I see things, certain rules should be open to interpretation. I am
suggesting that a clean start may be the best way to deal with this
situation, under the condition that our friend spends 6 months or so
learning the ropes. The criteria is intended to prevent edit war
specialists from creating new accounts as soon as their current one is
blocked. I really do not think that this is the case here.
184.108.40.206 was hounded by an IP (220.127.116.11) who started contributing
on Febuary 10th 2015 with a surprisingly good knowledge of how Wikipedia
works. I do not like that type of anonymous contributor at all. If you know
how to contribute, you use your account. Anyway, this IP did declare (
*I definitely made the mistake of using the speedy deletion banner when not
100% of the current article was copied. My analysis was that the articles
started with copyrighted content and therefore it would just be better to
restart with a clean slate. I won't make this assumption in the future.
Spearmind saw me concentrate on Ghana articles (as said that's because I
was reviewing article creations by Nkansahrexford who concentrates on
Ghana) and assumed that I was on a mission to delete articles about Ghana.
What I deplore is Spearmind's attitude on his talk page. I tried to
establish a dialog and asked him to use the talk pages instead of just
removing banners but he would not listen and became aggressively
defensive.Tonight I finished reviewing article creations by Nkansahrexford
and applied one additional copyviocore banner to Thomas Mensah. A few other
articles have copyvio issues but at a much smaller scale and I decided to
let it go. There were also a few copyvio issues from the same user on
Commons (see his talk page there).Thanks to everybody who helped with this
situation. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 06:32, 6 March 2015 (UTC) *
If this IP knows so much, why does he/she not contribute under his/her user
name ? What is wrong with being User:Badzil if that is who he/she is ?
But that is not the issue at hand. Apart from the fact that the admin who
did the blocking claims to have take a "*taking a long wikibreak and will
be back on Wikipedia at some point probably*" since mid-March (he has done
plenty of work since, including the edit block) what can we do to help
Nkansahrexford while he is being harassed by an experienced user who
prefers to contribute anonymously?
Of course the best way could be negociation. Has anyone interceded on his
behalf? Has anybody helped him start negociating?
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org>
But the policy, in its introduction, states
A clean start is not permitted if there are active bans, blocks or
sanctions (including, but not limited to those listed here) in place
against the old account.
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Clean_start#Criteria
Sorry Gabe... but no. I stand by my position. First negociate, then
restart (whether a fresh or not a fresh; but in all cases, in all
Le 03/04/15 00:16, Gabriel Thullen a écrit :
I am terribly sorry that you feel shocked by my proposition. Please
note that my proposal does correspond to "Wikipedia rules", I just tried to
spell it out a bit.
We are not talking about how to bypass Arbitration Committee sanctions,
we are talking about an editor who has been blocked.
The details can be found here:
I really think that our friend should try to make a clean start, spend
the time it takes to get a feel of how Wikipedia really works, and then
these complicated issues we are facing right now will seem a lot simpler.
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org>
Well... I am... shocked by this proposition.
What you propose is plain and simple a way to go around a block. This
comes in opposition with Wikipedia rules. So you recommand to "not respect
the rules" ? Uh....
Ethically speaking, I think it is wrong as well as it is cheating and a
lack of respect for the community and its way of operating.
Technically speaking, this is probably not possible as his IP is likely
to be blocked as well for new account creation.
I think the ONLY way to deal with that is
1) to pause and reflect on why that happened
2) to talk with the one who blocked and to propose to be on probation
with a solid-established wikipedian to "review" additions and help deal
with these copyright issues
3) to keep low profile and indeed to focus on small edits, small
improvements, categories => create a good track record.
Le 02/04/15 10:12, Gabriel Thullen a écrit :
I think that you should take a fresh start by doing the following:
1. Create a new user name for yourself.
2. Do a lot (I mean very many) small edits on many different articles,
and only change little details one at a time.
3. Avoid copying large amounts of text to avoid any copyvio issues.
4. In about 6 months time, your reputation will be solidly established
as a reliable Wikipedia contributor.
5. In six months time, you can return little by little to improving the
articles that have created the situation we are in right now.
OK, I know that this is easier said than done, but ALL the articles
about Africa need improving, and what is better for us in the long term? By
doing a lot of small edits, the global quality will improve and you will
gain a lot of very usefull experience in dealing with what are basically a
bunch of american or british editors.
And, by the way, once you have established a new ID, you can ask to have
your old account merged with the new one. But once you have created this
new account, you should not log in with the old one. We do not want anyone
accusing you of sock-puppetry.
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com
@Enock. Nope I've not tried defending myself.
I guess you might ask,
"Why?" Don't ask that yet! ;)
On Wednesday, April 1, 2015, Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo459(a)gmail.com>
Rex, Sorry to see you blocked.
By the way did you try defending yourself in recent copyvio raised
against you? And what was the outcome?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Douglas Scott <
> If we can address the cause of concern about the perceived copyright
> issues and address them then I think it should be quite simple to get it
> What are the copyright concerns that Wizardman has?
> On 1 April 2015 at 12:38, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org>
>> No expiry date.... uh.... :-[
>> Le 31/03/15 22:27, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
>> Eventually, I'm blocked from Wikipedia.
>> [image: 😕][image: 😕]
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>> Date: Mar 31, 2015 6:21 PM
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>> Wizardman <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wizardman>
>> left a message on your talk page in "Blocked". Due to the
>> significant issues found so far in regards to copyright, I've blocked you
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