Hi All

Okay - looking at the page, I can imagine why people might be a little taken a-back: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Mensah

It looks pretty harsh. I do think that there should be a message included in these HUGE notices, that notices such as these are not intended to discredit the person or subject, but a quest to ensure the best quality writing and information that is being supplied, and in this case its infringement on Copyright law. Who is the right person to speak to in order to suggest that this addition is made?

Oral, I am guessing that you are worried that Dr Mensah will think he is being accused of Copyright theft, which is not the case, obviously? 

If so, then perhaps an admin can move the article in question to someone’s sandbox or the WikiAfrica Incubator for it to be work on over time?

Would that be a better compromise than deleting the whole thing?

warmest
Isla


On 23 Mar 2015, at 14:30, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com> wrote:

I think what oral is suggesting is, since its gonna tale a bit of time to get the article in shape, it should be deleted.

Right, Oral?

khophi.co

On Mar 23, 2015 12:25 PM, "TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori" <oralofori@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Florence and Douglas,

But the fact is that I recommend complete deletion because that tag is discrediting to Dr. Mensah's image and so if Wikipedia doesn't want him on there then it will be best to delete his name than to rather have it up with a copyvio.

I hope his lawyers don't see it and create a whirlwind... if anyone here as admin rights and can delete then am all for it.









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On Mar 23, 2015 4:49 AM, "Douglas Scott" <douglas.i.scott@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Oral Ofori,

I think Florence's suggestion is the best.  The deletion option seems to me to be a bit extreme and unnecessary.  Re-writing the existing article so that it better comply's with Wikipedia guidelines should always be the first thing to try.  

Cheers,

Douglas.

On 23 March 2015 at 10:02, Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
Le 22/03/15 20:22, TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori a écrit :

I will like to ask your help in beginning proceedings to have the wiki article of Dr. Thomas Mensah totally deleted from Wikipedia and done as soon as possible.

This is because the page still comes up whenever you browse his name and it has that copyright tag there but displays nothing whatsover of his biography and achievements. Since Wikipedia is not displaying the bio of his work and achievements then I will ask that it deletes the page completely and his name off their servers as well because that tag implicating copyright issues is in itself defamatory to his character as a highly respected member of the global academic and scientific society.

If any one has an address to forward this request to then that will be greatly appreciated, else I say we do what we can as soon as we possibly can to see to the complete removal of Dr. Thomas Mensah from Wikipedia if they do not want his article there, rather than keep his name there and that of Rocky Dawuni under such defamatory circumstances.

I am open to whatever ideas anyone might have in seeing to the resolution of the above because Wikipedia or some editors there said it was going to take a week to resolve since the above page a were tagged for deletion on March 6, 2015 and it's been almost half a month now and they have not been completely removed: I speak as a concerned Ghanaian on this matter.


 Hello

Here is the route I recommand to fix that issue.

1) go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thomas_Mensah

2) rework the original article here, without any copyvio in there
There are two routes to do this
- the easiest (but less satisfactory) one: draft a short and clean version of the article, putting in there only non copyrighted content
- the longest (but more satisfactory) one: rewrite the current article (rephrase any sentence that was purely copy pasted from the original website)

3) contact an admin (or typically the guy who blanked the article and put the copyvio tag) and ask him if he is happy with new version

4) if no answer within a week, ask another admin to review the new version. Wait a week again

5) if no answer or if positive answer, copy the reworked text in the talk page in the article space

6) pray (or any appropriate gesture of self confort for you)

Ant









Thank you,

Oral Ofori

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On Mar 9, 2015 4:39 PM, "TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori" <oralofori@gmail.com> wrote:

Lol, no thats not what the message was shooting for, mistyped that there and thanks for efforts. Shirts about to get wet here :-)

On Mar 9, 2015 4:26 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
Excuse me ?
So... you suggest that *I* do the clean-up of the article to remove the copyvios that *YOU* guys added in it... and *THEN* hand it to you to improve ?
Or do you suggest that *I* go around look for some editors to improve the article ?

This is not what is going to happen...
If YOU guys want this article to exist, wet your shirt ;)

Ant

Le 09/03/15 20:01, TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori a écrit :

Ok Florence, let me know when that Rocky becomes a substantial non-cooyvio so I delve into it and add a few touches to beef it up while I cross my fingers for some hope about the Thomas Mensah one too.








Thanks,
Oral

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On Mar 9, 2015 2:19 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Dawuni

That's temporary. I will redelete it afterwards.

Guys, if you want to recreate a new article using the non copyvio parts of this one, please do so in an intermediary space. Thanks

Ant

Le 09/03/15 09:45, rupert THURNER a écrit :

Hmmm..  I d love to have the history. It is not my text

Rupert

On Mar 8, 2015 7:44 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
Hi

I copy pasted the entire text in my email two days ago Rupert...
You just need to copy paste it anywhere you feel it is best (online or not online).

Ant


Le 06/03/15 20:16, rupert THURNER a écrit :

Sure, if you could restore it, at least in my or Rex personal namespace...

On Mar 6, 2015 7:51 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
Le 06/03/15 19:41, Florence Devouard a écrit :
Le 06/03/15 19:09, rupert THURNER a écrit :

Yes please do send this list and try to improve them,  and then tell me how pleasant this work was.

Contrary, for the rocky dawuni article I d be interested as well where the copyright infringement was. I do not like that without admin permission it is not possible to look this up...

Rupert



Also of interest in the conversation: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=650110340#Copyvio_-_removal_of_tags_by_Spearmind


Otherwise... with a quick study of what is going on about the deletion spree, it seems that...
* in all articles, chunks are indeed copyvios. The chunks are smaller or bigger depending on each case.
* in many cases, the article is blanked in its entirety, then deleted.

Looks like it is a bit overkill to me. I see not why at least a stub could be kept.

Ant

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