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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:18:33 +0000
From: Nkansah Rexford
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Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Wikimania and African space
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The figures aren't encouraging. I agree

Rexford | khophi.co
On Jun 16, 2015 11:17 AM, "Felix Nartey" <flixtey@gmail.com> wrote:

 Rex don't get the figures wrong, it's just 3 and not 4.

 Dumi is going on the ticket of the FDC. Plus I agree, the numbers are not
 encouraging for Africa. I don't think our number even constitutes 2% of the
 total scholarships given and I hope this is looked into for future purposes.
 On Jun 16, 2015
11:05 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford@gmail.com>
 wrote:

 I think Habib said he did get a scholarship. That makes it four from
 Africa.

 Rexford | khophi.co
 On Jun 16, 2015 11:03 AM, "Isla at the Africa Centre" <
 islahf@africacentre.net> wrote:

 Basically, as far as I see Florence’s proposal, its about either the
 wikipedia work within Africa is not visible at all (because none of us are
 there), or that people can see that we exist and what we have achieved over
 the last year - even if it is in leaflets that are left on an unmanned
 table.

 Essentially, we were just not invited. I didn’t get a scholarship

either. The only ones I know who did are Douglas and Bobby, and Dumi as he
 is on the FDC committee  - perhaps Habib did? Nobody else managed. 2 or 3
 people from Africa doesn’t seem like even 5% of the scholarships to me, but
 I could be wrong.

 On 16 Jun 2015, at 12:57 PM, Felix Nartey <flixtey@gmail.com> wrote:

 Not like that but rather a unified or collective effort towards
 showcasing what each country has got in representing Africa.

 Felix
 On Jun 16, 2015 10:32 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford@gmail.com>
 wrote:

 That will mean representatives from each country at the Africa space
 will take turns in manning the space?

 On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Felix Nartey <flixtey@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am in support of Florence's suggestion especially in this case where
 there isn't enough representation from Africa.

 It won't make sense if only Bobby reserves a space for Wikimedia ZA or
 Habib for Tunisia Use group at the community village. Even if they decide
 to, that means they will hardly enjoy the conference since most of their
 time will be spent under their space and more especially when they are just
 one each representing their respective countries.

 I am saddened to say that Africa will be highly underrepresented at
 this year's Wikimania. I hope this doesn't repeat in subsequent years.

 Best,
 Felix
 On Jun 16, 2015 8:32 AM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere@anthere.org>
 wrote:

  Hi Rex

 The main reason why I was suggesting a collective table is that I am
 NOT sure there will be participants from many countries.
 As hinted by Raphael, there will be no one from Ghana. Will they be
 anyone from Ivory Coast ? From Uganda ? From Ethiopia ? Even from South
 Africa ? etc.
 The other thing is that even if there ONE person (or even 2) from a
 country... it is unlikely that he will manage the table all by himself
 during three days. He better enjoy moving around and benefit from all what
 Wikimania can offer.

 It may be that Tunisia has enough participants to be able to manage a
 table. It may be that they will be the only ones. I do not know if they
 asked for a table.

 Well, a collective table would have the following benefits
 * team work, getting to know each other better
 * showing the other wikimedians what is being done in Africa.
 * showing
them as well that Africa still need way more
 representation...
 * insure a little presence even from missing countries

 And yeah... I am also thinking that in case we have a table and in
 case it has no volunteer managing the table during most of Wikimania, it
 somehow also carries a strong message.
 "African wikimedians do exist but they are not here"

 Ant

 Le 16/06/15 01:25, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :

 Hi Florence,

  I have no idea who is coming from Ghana to Wikimania this year
 (perhaps someone will, yet isn't within our community that we know). As at
 now, no one confirmed from our end here concerning attending wikimania

  During Wikimania London, I remember there was not an explicitly
 assigned collective space for African teams, but the African teams were in
 close proximity, in fact, in a sequential order.  The teams weren't under
 the 'Africa' collective
name, but it was easy finding where the African
 teams were located.

  The sequence was ZA, Ghana, and Tunisia:

 https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village#Map_of_the_Community_Village

  How about instead of requesting for a collective space 'for
 Africa', maybe during the placing and arrangement of African teams in the
 community village structure, African teams are placed in sequence? ex. say,
 Ghana - Table 1,  Tunisia - Table 2, ZA - Table 3, then other communities
 follow, so with a stop at Table - 1, it easier spotting subsequent African
 countries, just like it was arranged for London?

  rex

 On Monday, June 15, 2015, Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>
 wrote:

 Eh !

 You have been very silent on this topic my friends :)

 No feedback at all ?

 Ant

 Le 11/06/15 12:54, Florence Devouard a écrit :

 Hello everyone

 Isla and I were talking about Wikimania this morning and an idea
 showed up :)

 It seems there will be a "community village" this year in Mexico :
 https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village
 Last year, it was very successful in London and many chapters had
 their own space.
 In most cases, there were 2-4 people sitting at each space to
 answer any question. Posters, leaflets, books and more generally marketing
 material. And food.

 Whilst it would be probably challenging to imagine a
space for each
 user-group/chapter in Africa, we could maybe share a collective space to
 represent Africa and what is being done here. What do you think ?

 Through Kumusha and Wiki Loves Africa, we have a bunch of objects
 we can show. I remember South Africa had made some leaflets about some of
 their projects. I know Ivory Coast has made some as well. What do you have
 to share that we could put on a collective table ?

 Also, amongst the recognized user groups, did some already request
 a space ? (Tunisia ?)

 And who is coming to Wikimania ?

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:50:20 +0100
From: Habib M'henni <habib.mhenni@gmail.com>
To: african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: Émna Mizouni <eman.mizouni@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] African-Wikimedians Digest, Vol 7,
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Hello everybody,

In deed, I've got scholarship to attend Wikimania this year. Emna (in cc) from Tunisia will be also there. 
Mohamed Bachounda from Algeria, Walaa Abdelmanaem and May Hashem from Tunisia are going to Mexico also.

The African stand is a good idea but we have
to organize a permanent representatives, last year in London we were so busy with the Wikimedia TN User group stand that I missed several sessions in Wikimania that's why, this year I made a request to be represented as a member of the WikiFranca stand (I didn't knew about African's one).

I will not present all time at WikiFranca and Emna could help me to represent Tunisia in both.

So, we will bring some leaflets about out activities and some foods from Tunisia.

Best,

Habib

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:05:18 +0000
From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com>
To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians
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Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Wikimania and African space
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I think Habib said he did get a scholarship. That makes it four from
Africa.

Rexford | khophi.co
On Jun 16, 2015 11:03 AM, "Isla at the Africa Centre" <
islahf@africacentre.net> wrote:

 Basically, as far as I see Florence’s proposal, its about either the
 wikipedia work within Africa is not visible at all (because none of
us are
 there), or that people can see that we exist and what we have
achieved over
 the last year - even if it is in leaflets that are left on an
unmanned
 table.

 Essentially, we were just not invited. I didn’t get a scholarship
either.
 The only ones I know who did are Douglas and Bobby, and Dumi as he is
on
 the FDC committee  - perhaps Habib did? Nobody else managed. 2 or 3
people
 from Africa doesn’t seem like even 5% of the scholarships to
me, but
I
 could be wrong.

 On 16 Jun 2015, at 12:57 PM, Felix Nartey <flixtey@gmail.com> wrote:

 Not like that but rather a unified or collective effort towards
showcasing
 what each country has got in representing Africa.

 Felix
 On Jun 16, 2015 10:32 AM, "Nkansah Rexford"
<nkansahrexford@gmail.com>
 wrote:

 That will mean representatives from each country at the Africa space
will
 take turns in manning the space?

 On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Felix Nartey <flixtey@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am in support of Florence's suggestion especially in this case
where
 there isn't enough representation from Africa.

 It won't make sense if only Bobby reserves a space for Wikimedia ZA
or
 Habib for Tunisia Use group at the community village. Even if they
decide
 to, that means they will hardly enjoy the conference since most of
their
 time will be spent under their space and more especially when they
are just
 one
each representing their respective countries.

 I am saddened to say that Africa will be highly underrepresented at
this
 year's Wikimania. I hope this doesn't repeat in subsequent years.

 Best,
 Felix
 On Jun 16, 2015 8:32 AM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere@anthere.org>
 wrote:

  Hi Rex

 The main reason why I was suggesting a collective table is that I
am
 NOT sure there will be participants from many countries.
 As hinted by Raphael, there will be no one from Ghana. Will they
be
 anyone from Ivory Coast ? From Uganda ? From Ethiopia ? Even from
South
 Africa ? etc.
 The other thing is that even if there ONE person (or even 2) from
a
 country... it is unlikely that he will manage the table all by
himself
 during three days. He better enjoy moving around and benefit from
all what
 Wikimania can offer.

 It may be that Tunisia has enough participants to be able to
manage a
 table. It may be that they will be the only ones. I do not know if
they
 asked for a table.

 Well, a collective table would have the following
benefits
 * team work, getting to know each other better
 * showing the other wikimedians what is being done in Africa.
 * showing them as well that Africa still need way more
representation...
 * insure a little presence even from missing countries

 And yeah... I am also thinking that in case we have a table and in
case
 it has no volunteer managing the table during most of Wikimania,
it somehow
 also carries a strong message.
 "African wikimedians do exist but they are not here"

 Ant

 Le 16/06/15 01:25, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :

 Hi Florence,

  I have no idea who is coming from Ghana to Wikimania this year
 (perhaps someone will, yet isn't within our community that we
know). As at
 now, no one confirmed from our end here concerning attending
wikimania

  During Wikimania London, I remember there was not an explicitly
 assigned collective space for African teams, but the African teams
were in
 close proximity, in fact, in a sequential order.  The teams
weren't under
 the 'Africa' collective name, but it was easy finding where the
African
 teams were located.

  The sequence was ZA, Ghana, and Tunisia:

https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village#Map_of_the_Community_Village

  How about instead of requesting for a collective space 'for
Africa',
 maybe during the placing and arrangement of African teams in the
community
 village structure, African teams are placed in sequence? ex. say,
Ghana -
 Table 1,  Tunisia - Table 2, ZA - Table 3, then other communities
follow,
 so with a stop at Table - 1, it easier spotting subsequent African
 countries, just like it was arranged for London?

  rex

 On Monday, June 15, 2015, Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org>

wrote:

 Eh !

 You have been very silent on this topic my friends :)

 No feedback at all ?

 Ant

 Le 11/06/15 12:54, Florence Devouard a écrit :

 Hello everyone

 Isla and I were talking about Wikimania this morning and an idea
 showed up :)

 It seems there will be a "community village" this year in Mexico
:
 https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village
 Last year, it was very successful in London and many chapters
had
 their own space.
 In most cases, there were 2-4 people sitting at each space to
answer
 any question. Posters, leaflets, books and more generally
marketing
 material. And food.

 Whilst it would be probably challenging to imagine a space for
each
 user-group/chapter in Africa, we could maybe share a collective
space to
 represent Africa and what is
being done here. What do you think
?

 Through Kumusha and Wiki Loves Africa, we have a bunch of
objects we
 can show. I remember South Africa had made some leaflets about
some of
 their projects. I know Ivory Coast has made some as well. What
do you have
 to share that we could put on a collective table ?

 Also, amongst the recognized user groups, did some already
request a
 space ? (Tunisia ?)

 And who is coming to Wikimania ?

 Anthere

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Rex don't get the figures wrong, it's just 3 and not 4.

Dumi is going on the ticket of the FDC. Plus I agree, the numbers are
not
encouraging for Africa. I don't think our number even constitutes 2% of
the
total scholarships given and I hope this is looked into for future
purposes.
On Jun 16, 2015 11:05 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford@gmail.com>
wrote:

 I think Habib said he did get a scholarship. That makes it four from
 Africa.

 Rexford |
khophi.co
 On Jun 16, 2015 11:03 AM, "Isla at the Africa Centre" <
 islahf@africacentre.net> wrote:

 Basically, as far as I see Florence’s proposal, its about either the
 wikipedia work within Africa is not visible at all (because none of
us are
 there), or that people can see that we exist and what we have
achieved over
 the last year - even if it is in leaflets that are left on an
unmanned
 table.

 Essentially, we were just not invited. I didn’t get a scholarship
either.
 The only ones I know who did are Douglas and Bobby, and Dumi as he
is on
 the FDC committee  - perhaps Habib did? Nobody else managed. 2 or 3
people
 from Africa doesn’t seem like even 5% of the scholarships to me, but
I
 could be wrong.

 On 16 Jun 2015, at 12:57 PM, Felix Nartey <flixtey@gmail.com> wrote:

 Not like that but rather a unified or collective effort
towards
 showcasing what each country has got in representing Africa.

 Felix
 On Jun 16, 2015 10:32 AM, "Nkansah Rexford"
<nkansahrexford@gmail.com>
 wrote:

 That will mean representatives from each country at the Africa
space
 will take turns in manning the space?

 On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Felix Nartey <flixtey@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am in support of Florence's suggestion especially in this case
where
 there isn't enough representation from Africa.

 It won't make sense if only Bobby reserves a space for Wikimedia
ZA or
 Habib for Tunisia Use group at 