But the policy, in its introduction, states

A clean start is not permitted if there are active bans, blocks or sanctions (including, but not limited to those listed here) in place against the old account.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Clean_start#Criteria

Sorry Gabe... but no. I stand by my position. First negociate, then restart (whether a fresh or not a fresh; but in all cases, in all transparency).



Le 03/04/15 00:16, Gabriel Thullen a écrit :
I am terribly sorry that you feel shocked by my proposition. Please note that my proposal does correspond to "Wikipedia rules", I just tried to spell it out a bit.
We are not talking about how to bypass Arbitration Committee sanctions, we are talking about an editor who has been blocked.
The details can be found here:


I really think that our friend should try to make a clean start, spend the time it takes to get a feel of how Wikipedia really works, and then these complicated issues we are facing right now will seem a lot simpler.

Best regards

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Florence Devouard <anthere@anthere.org> wrote:
Well... I am... shocked by this proposition.

What you propose is plain and simple a way to go around a block. This comes in opposition with Wikipedia rules. So you recommand to "not respect the rules" ? Uh....

Ethically speaking, I think it is wrong as well as it is cheating and a lack of respect for the community and its way of operating.

Technically speaking, this is probably not possible as his IP is likely to be blocked as well for new account creation.

I think the ONLY way to deal with that is
1) to pause and reflect on why that happened
2) to talk with the one who blocked and to propose to be on probation with a solid-established wikipedian to "review" additions and help deal with these copyright issues
3) to keep low profile and indeed to focus on small edits, small improvements, categories => create a good track record.


Le 02/04/15 10:12, Gabriel Thullen a écrit :
I think that you should take a fresh start by doing the following:
1. Create a new user name for yourself.
2. Do a lot (I mean very many) small edits on many different articles, and only change little details one at a time.
3. Avoid copying large amounts of text to avoid any copyvio issues.
4. In about 6 months time, your reputation will be solidly established as a reliable Wikipedia contributor.
5. In six months time, you can return little by little to improving the articles that have created the situation we are in right now.

OK, I know that this is easier said than done, but ALL the articles about Africa need improving, and what is better for us in the long term? By doing a lot of small edits, the global quality will improve and you will gain a lot of very usefull experience in dealing with what are basically a bunch of american or british editors.

And, by the way, once you have established a new ID, you can ask to have your old account merged with the new one. But once you have created this new account, you should not log in with the old one. We do not want anyone accusing you of sock-puppetry.


On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com> wrote:
@Enock. Nope I've not tried defending myself. I guess you might ask, "Why?" Don't ask that yet! ;)


On Wednesday, April 1, 2015, Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo459@gmail.com> wrote:
Rex, Sorry to see you blocked.

By the way did you try defending yourself in recent copyvio raised against you? And what was the outcome?


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On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott@gmail.com> wrote: