Thank you so much for your comprehensive clarification. I concur with you
per your elaborate explanation which is actually convincing.
At this point, I think "Wiki Africa" is long overdue!!!
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org>
Being bold here...
Africa Centre tried vaguely to claim intellectual property rights over
the term when Isla stopped working there. It does not really make sense as
1) the first one to use the term (and who made the logo I think) was
Iolanda back in 2006. And back then, her project was a "lettera27
Foundation project run in collaboration with Wikimedia Italia".
2), The Africa Centre first got involved in a WikiAfrica project in ...
2011, with Isla.
So from an anteriority perspective... their claim can simply not make it.
3) Several projects which run under that banner never involved Africa
Centre. For example WikiFundi was never related to them. And has been
clearly called a WikiAfrica project since its inception.
So if they felt they had a ground... they would complain. Which they do
not. I am not aware they object to anything at the moment.
Actually, Africa Center considered making a grant request to WMF a few
months ago. I think for an education project. But I did not see any project
grant from them the last two sessions, so I guess they finally decided
I think... it is normal that Africa Centre use its legacy and show what
they have done in the past. I do not think they have run ANY WikiAfrica
project since Isla left. At least, I am not aware of any and there is
nothing new on their website. But, what was done under Africe Centre banner
is part of their legacy. And that's a non profit organization that needs to
show what it has done to get funding for other projects. So WikiAfrica is
one of their programmes..
I would not say WikiAfrica is a program. That's a set of initiatives led
in the wiki world, to improve production and availability of free knowledge
about Africa and Africa participation. In my view, that's a UserGroup. And
we probably should create an official one at some point. But that's the
I think it is complementary to what the chapters and usergroup do in the
sense that it is cross-countries.
For example, a few days ago, some people decided to kick start a "education-focused
User Group". There are education programmes in every chapter basically...
the User Group will just be a "transversal" thing.
There is also a WikiWomen UserGroup (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi
ki/WikiWomen%27s_User_Group). And there are projects women related in
many chapters as well.
Who owns WikiAfrica ? Well, no one. Maybe we should ask for a
trademark... but really... I am not sure why we should bother.
If one of you guys want to start a WikiAfrica project (the missing
tile...), just move on and do it. But if the project is going to be run in
only ONE country, it is probably better to do it within your country
UserGroup or Chapter. If the project is cross-country... WikiAfrica makes
(if needed, I am sure Isla or I can have other ideas for that nemissingw
tile... we can also make an entire NEW ROW ! Trust that part)
To go back to the Africa Center question... I see no problem for them to
run projects under the WikiAfrica banner...
* as long as they do not claim they own the whole stuff...
* as long as they do not claim they managed all the WikiAfrica
* as long as they do not prevent others to run projects under this
* as long as the projects are within values and rules consistant to what
wikimedians would consider the "right thing" (such as free licence outcome
If they start a new project within this framework... that can be the
missing tile ;)
The last projects we run, we did so with other hosts and partners
(Wikimedia CH, Ynternet.org
and Goethe Institute in particular). We may run
future ones under the newborn Wiki in Africa association. We may also run
them with the Kiwix association. Who knows !!!!
We thought important to have a place to showcase those projects as a
whole. We also thought important to acknowledge the role each of those
hosts and partners have played. Africa Centre certainly played an important
part there and it is important that its role and involvement be recognised.
But it is one amongst others. As displayed here :
Le 09/06/2017 à 13:23, Isaac Olatunde a écrit :
Thank you, Isla.
My understanding of your comment is that "Wiki Africa" is an intellectual
property of Flo, Lopenza and you and Africa Center do not have any control
over it. Correct? Per the claim here, <http://www.africacentre.net/> do
you think Africa Center is mistaken? or they are in fact, correct (i.e it's
their program, they owns it?
Let me know if you wish to discuss off-list.
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Isla Haddow-Flood <
It is on a wordpress site is there a problem with
Excuse the brevity, sent from my iPhone.
On 08 Jun 2017, at 22:32, Nkansah Rexford <seanmavley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Is there any chance the website could use a WordPress theme instead of
this custom made one?
Something similar along the lines of what was used for the
On Thursday, June 8, 2017, Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
After a lot of time and effort, we are VERY pleased to announce the
launch for the WikiAfrica.org
The website has been completely revamped in order to give due credit to
all the members of the moment - including sponsors, hosts and, of course,
to showcase the projects. Please feel free to look through the website and
suggest changes or where you feel more information could be added. At the
moment, the information is very sparse and is designed to lead people to
investigate the projects in more depth via their own websites, or to get
involved with the existing wikimedia chapters and affiliates.
We look forward to your feedback,
Isla and Florence
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