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Date : Wed, 3 Dec 2014 12:05:55 +0000
De : Jean-Frédéric Berthelot <jeanfrederic.berthelot(a)gmail.com>
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Wikimedia Deutschland, la Commission Allemande pour l’UNESCO et la
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cette brochure :
« Open Content - A Practical Guide to Using Creative Commons Licences »
This is a fantastic idea. Especially after Raphael and team's incredibly
successful Kumusha Bus in Ghana this past weekend. I'm told there is a
thriving open community in Ghana that's looking for more opportunities to
connect and grow!
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Cape Town, South Africa
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> 1. Re: Wikimedia gathering in Ghana in 2017 together with the
> meeting ACASA Art Council of the African Studies Association
> (Isla Haddow-Flood)
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> From: Isla Haddow-Flood <islahf(a)africacentre.net>
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> Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Wikimedia gathering in Ghana in
> 2017 together with the meeting ACASA Art Council of the African
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> Hi Kasper
> In June, Wikimedia ZA held Wiki Indaba. It was for wikipedians from Africa
> and wikipedians working on Africa from outside, as well as those from the
> aligned movement across Africa. We had delegates from all over Africa,
> including Cameroon, Côte d'Ivoire and Tunisia, and France. Afripedia was
> invited, I know, because I made a special effort to make sure they knew
> about it. I believe Florence also mentioned it to them. But there was some
> change happening at Afripedia too.
> I think another Wiki Indaba will definitely happen, but for when and where
> you will have to check with Douglas at Wikimedia ZA the original organizers
> (and aiming for Ghana for 2017 is a great idea, hopefully having had others
> in 2015-6).
> I really don't see any point in spitting the conference and having a
> francophone one separate from the rest. It means we are going backwards,
> but with Afripedia on board, perhaps the weighting of the conference can
> become more balanced. You can find out more about the conference at
> WikiIndaba.net ... And on meta:
> Most of the people on this list were at the last one.
> Isla on the move. Excuse the brevity.
> > On 4 Dec 2014, at 00:38, Kasper Souren <kasper.souren(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, December 3, 2014, Iolanda Pensa <iolanda(a)pensa.it> wrote:
> >> In 2017 (August 9-13), the ACASA Art Council of the African Studies
> Association is having its triennial meeting in Ghana. it is the first time
> in Africa. http://www.acasaonline.org
> > Great!
> >> I wanted to launch the idea for an African gathering in another country
> (as suggested by Wikimedia ZA) but with a light management work.
> >> what do you think?
> > During the Afripedia session this week the idea came up to organize
> something like a "Francophone Wikimania" somewhere in Africa at some point
> in the future.
> > Kasper
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to build up a small wikipedia I would not go to translate from English version. Many articles in big wikipedias like English, German have grown to an extent that only part of readers will read all. If you go to translate these very long and often complicated articles you have a higher risk that your language will be less AKAN than English put in Akan words. Different languages have different structures of thought and expression. I sometimes sit long time trying to find a Swahili noun for an English one till I remember that in Swahili we use far less nouns but say it differently with a verbal expression.
Short entries with basic information are just fine. And less tiring for you who tries to build a base.
I often take the simple:Wikipedia entry as a basis (if it makes sense...), open some other language versions I can read and see how they start the explanation and then put it into Swahili. So less translating but let yourself be inspired by the choice and structure of information about topics. And then boil it down to what you think readers in your environment and culture should know first.
Referencing I often (mostly) do by copying the ref-sections from English because for East African readers who are looking for referecing English is the language of choice if there is no Swahili literature (as it is most of the time).
What Akan standard to use? No idea! (just a quote by Martin Luther: Pecca fortiter! -dare to sin-)
Kipala - Ingo
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 21:59:23 +0000
From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>
In the case of the Akan language, there're many speakers. And many schools
teach the language, how to write and speak from primary schools to even
sometimes senior high school.
I, myself, can go back to writing articles onto the Akan Wikipedia. What I
ask myself sometimes is that, "Will I have to translate the english
versions for whatever article I wanna write to Akan? How will I provide
referencing for the articles I write in Akan? What is the standardized Akan
language to use?"
I have lots of interest in improving the Akan Wikipedia, and I'm gonna fix
it in my workflow and help improve it.
Because, Why not?
Thanks for suggestions.
In 2005 I did some work on Wikipedia in African languages, mainly
Bambara and Peul.
A couple of months ago I was asked to go to Madagascar and provide
training as part of the Afripedia project.
Currently I'm in Douala, Cameroon for a 3 day session that will gather
people from previous Afripédia sessions. Our main focus will be to
find way to create sustainable communities of editors.
Wiki Loves Africa: It is still too early to give a full feedback on what
worked, what did not work, what was painful, what was nicely unexpected
since the project is not over yet. But I would like to share a few quick
thoughts with regards to the question of "who can undertake the
organization of a project" :)
1. I think it is much easier for participants to the project when a
structure can carry it from an administrative point of view because it
can take the burden of admin/financial tasks off the shoulders of those
interested to help, but not interested to do the paperwork
2. I actually also think it is safer from a financial risk management
point of view :)
3. The contest took way more time and energy I would expect it would
take. I come out of it with a brand new and strong respect for the
organizers of Wiki Loves Monuments !
The number of volunteers in Africa is not unlimited and the amount of
practical support we got out of Africa was not much (for example,
Wikimedia France refused to relay the press releases. For example, The
SignPost did not care to even write a line to talk about the contest. We
were just ignored).
As such... the load is heavy for those involved.
Wiki Loves Monuments currently works in a more distributed manner
(organized in large part per country), but in most cases, the country
features a chapter or at least a developped user group. This is not what
we have. In a few countries, we have a chapter and a small official user
group. In most countries, we have at best one person.
So I am rather little convinced that a model where groups of 1-5 people,
in 10 different african countries, would request a grant from WMF and
handle things from A to Z in their country, would actually work. But we
will collect feedbacks on that matter after the contest is over to see
what would be the best option for next year :)
4. Last... probably more than in other places in the world, we got
official rubber stamping requests. For example, a "non wikimedian" jury
member asked us official statement to describe what the contest is
about, how it is run, what is expected from jury members and so on. For
example, a potential local partner asked for an official document
proving that Samuel was indeed in charge of facilitating the contest
locally. This is typically one of the reasons why chapters were created
in the first place. Often, external organizations are reassured when we
show business cards, official paper letter, signatures and so on. And
they prefer to send money to a bank rather than a paypal account. And
they prefer providing gifts to a brick and mortar association rather
than sending the gifts to a po box.
So yes... it takes a group to take initiative to organize it. And we had
this group this year. It was wonderful. I hope to see even more people
to get in the boat next year (globally or locally). But just as I like
Wikimedia France to be a "support" structure in France for the Wiki
Cheese project, I think we need a "support" structure for WLA. And
Africa Center does that.
PS: gosh, I am glad this list is alive !!!!
Le 03/12/14 03:09, Asaf Bartov a écrit :
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Kasper Souren <kasper.souren(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote:
> I see the contest is over now, will there be another one coming up?
> Maybe. What it takes for that to be a "yes" is a group to take
> initiative to organize it, and to request the resources needed to run
> it (at the very least, prizes, but usually also logistics etc.),
> whether via a grant or through local sponsorships or crowdfunding. In
> the case of this competition this year, the organization was
> undertaken by the Africa Centre, which secured a WMF grant to fund it:
> (you might also be interested in the talk page)
> I was quite disappointed by the limited participation of
> Cameroom to the photo contest. Given the effort already been
> done in that country to train editors and to promote the
> project, I expected more input.
> While trying to upload some pictures to
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Afripedia_Douala I'm
> starting to understand at least one part of the issue. Internet
> connections are really bad. Very high ping times, both at the
> French institute as well as in the hotel I'm staying in now, which
> I can't easily consider cheap (at least in terms of pricing).
> Is there a robust way to upload pictures to Commons over bad
> internet connections?
> Not that I know. It may be a good discussion to have on wikitech-l
> and/or commons-l.
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Would it be okay if people post messages in French on this list? I
would like to invite all participants of the current Afripedia session
in Douala but many of them don't write English well enough to
I am on sw-wikipedia. At wikiindaba in Joburg I gave an overview about African language wikipedias.
There are 6 with more than 10.000 entries. Of these Malagasy and Yoruba have lots of fake content, their statistical numbers hide a lot of empty shells. The small but fairly solid one is Afrikaans, Swahili a bit shaky but not doing badly. Amharic has a lot of chances (but hampered by very poor internet access in Ethiopia). Masri I have no judgement...... Somali, although hardly existing, also has a good chance once there is a bit of peace (fantastic viewer share amongst ALWs).
You wrote about workshops for West African languages. I am cautious. These tiny wikipedias need content for casual users to join in. My impression of wikiindaba (my first Wikimedia meeting ever) was: lots of people who like conferences, to communicate and organize but do not produce content. Few producers. A workshop (especially if you pay the participants and the participants are not paying you) CAN be a starter for a language but if it does not take off afterwards you probably will not force it by repeats.
East African SW-experience was similar. Great workshops in Kenya, lots of material produced when there was an incentive (google promised some laptops fo winners of an article writing competition), lots of lousy Swahili uploaded (horrible google-translate stuff), and after the competetion: quiet. Very, very few who registered for competition ever showed up again. If - only rarely.
If there is a need to have a Wikipedia in a language it will come.
I think it is worthwhile to prepare structures and starter sets online for people to kick in. But no amount of workshops etc. will overcome lack of internet access, inability to read and write a widely spoken language, and the contempt for own culture.
Cheers, Kipala - Ingo
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My email was sent too quickly. There are few more things I wanted to bring up:
I'm curious about (creating) connections between Francophone and Anglophone contributors. It seems WikiAfrica has mainly been about the English Wikipedia and Afripédia is almost only about the French Wikipedia. How many people on this list speak French? How many have contributed to French language projects?
And then there is the question of African languages. Personally I think this is where Africa can gain most. How many of you have contributed in African languages? Which languages Any obstacles?
There is a mailinglist list about Wikipedia in African languages which has been active since 2006: