Thanks, Daniel.

When I follow your link I get to 

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27745008#Q27745008$395bc538-41dd-d2a4-62ad-ee49748323d8, which suggests that it’s the $395... portion that identifies the statement. I’ve found this identifier only in the JSON representation of the page; is it more easily accessible? 

Returning to Adam’s original point, “Each statement, claim, or fact could have a URL“, I wonder how this existing identifier is not providing this.

As you say, the Wikidata statement, claim or fact does not have its own QNode. Except it might, if we treated it as a concept in its own right. This is exactly what I would expect Abstract Wikipedia to do (that is, the claim is the basic unit of language-neutral content in AW, given that Wikidata already has language-neutral nouns). Abstract Wikipedia would (should) also have “clusters” of claims that can range over multiple subjects (QNodes) or express controversy about a claim, and so forth.

That’s not meant to suggest that Wikifact is already included in Abstract Wikipedia, by the way! One key difference, paradoxically, is that Wikifact would presumably represent false and contentious claims as subjects in their own right, whereas AW would (presumably, generally) cluster such claims under a broader topic.

Best regards,

Al.

On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 22:52, Daniel Garijo <dgarijov@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

if you consider statements as each triple in Wikidata, they do already have a unique identifier. For example:

http://www.wikidata.org/entity/statement/Q27745008-395bc538-41dd-d2a4-62ad-ee49748323d8 is the id for the triple wd:Q27745008 wdt:P31 wd:Q146

What they don't have is a unique QNode.

Best,

Daniel

El mié, 17 feb 2021 a las 21:33, Grounder UK (<grounderuk@gmail.com>) escribió:

Facts can be seen as a special case of assertions, a special case of quotations. In Wikipedia, we should only be dealing with assertions (we must have a source) and in Wikidata, each statement is an abstract paraphrase of an assertion. Is there a reason why Wikidata statements do not have a unique identifier?

On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 20:21, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:

SJ - Rephrasing... reminds me of some of the discussion we had within Schema.org where I pushed for Quotation often. https://schema.org/Quotation  where we didn't put much work into helping connect more dots, but still it's there.

Quotations often tie into facts, "he said/she said", dispute resolution, etc.

And where it seems Wikidata's quotation property might also somehow play a part in your proposal.

Adam - I think it would be nice to have a concrete example of some clusters where a quotation is part of the fact basis.

Thad

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